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One of the group is buying the Book of Nine Swords. What should I expect?
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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 3096821" data-attributes="member: 12032"><p>I just want to chime in (again) with the following:</p><p></p><p>The base classes are more powerful than the warrior classes in the PHB. I think most everyone agrees on that. Comparing to a druid is of course hard, but I'd say the _swordsage_ is more powerful than any non Bo9S class. By a fair bit. IMO, YMMV, etc.</p><p></p><p>The flavor and ideas of the book are some of the best I've seen out of WoTC. </p><p></p><p>The mechanics are a bit tricky and slow down the game, esp. for the crusader who has to randomly select abilities often. The main problems are the counters (the otherwise rare immediate actions) which slow things and the changing stances where the player has to recompute things. This can be sped up nicely with index cards (per the book itself). </p><p></p><p>Also, frankly, it is really hard to build a higher-level character for this game.</p><p></p><p>My feeling is the classes are most powerful at middle/low-levels (4-8 or so). The price for only taking one attack is small and doesn't balance the abilities.</p><p></p><p>Finally, the most wonky things about it are the following:</p><p></p><p>EVERY fighter should take a level of warblade or crusader at 9th level. You can take a third level stance (much better than the 1/2 feat you lose, better than any one feat in fact). Plus the manouvers.</p><p></p><p>Unlike anyother class, the ORDER you take things in makes a huge difference. Warblade 1 followed by fighter 8 is MUCH weaker than fighter 8 followed by warblade 1. (Due to stance and manouver selection).</p><p></p><p>Both of the above annoy me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 3096821, member: 12032"] I just want to chime in (again) with the following: The base classes are more powerful than the warrior classes in the PHB. I think most everyone agrees on that. Comparing to a druid is of course hard, but I'd say the _swordsage_ is more powerful than any non Bo9S class. By a fair bit. IMO, YMMV, etc. The flavor and ideas of the book are some of the best I've seen out of WoTC. The mechanics are a bit tricky and slow down the game, esp. for the crusader who has to randomly select abilities often. The main problems are the counters (the otherwise rare immediate actions) which slow things and the changing stances where the player has to recompute things. This can be sped up nicely with index cards (per the book itself). Also, frankly, it is really hard to build a higher-level character for this game. My feeling is the classes are most powerful at middle/low-levels (4-8 or so). The price for only taking one attack is small and doesn't balance the abilities. Finally, the most wonky things about it are the following: EVERY fighter should take a level of warblade or crusader at 9th level. You can take a third level stance (much better than the 1/2 feat you lose, better than any one feat in fact). Plus the manouvers. Unlike anyother class, the ORDER you take things in makes a huge difference. Warblade 1 followed by fighter 8 is MUCH weaker than fighter 8 followed by warblade 1. (Due to stance and manouver selection). Both of the above annoy me. [/QUOTE]
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