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<blockquote data-quote="Harlath" data-source="post: 8515187" data-attributes="member: 48056"><p>That's a shame! Although as a longstanding 1e fan I think 2e is a significant improvement, I can see there are people who prefer 1e and I'm glad it is still there for them.</p><p></p><p>i agree that 2e's journey rules are lot better.</p><p></p><p>Some of the changes in the final 2e may well address some of your concerns. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Flavour from cultural weapons: these can now be unlocked by deeds during play instead, and then selected with valour. See p188 for an example (this chapter wasn't in the alpha).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magical treasures being too frequent: Core rules assume 6 treasure rolls across a 2-3 sessions adventure and a 1/6 chance of a treasure per roll. More likely to discover an treasure per adventure than not, but sometimes 0 and sometimes more than 1. But it will frequently "just" be a Marvellous Artefact/Wondrous Item rather than a Weapon/Armour.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Core song rules: can now be used to avoid the affects of Weariness across combats/councils/journeys.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Eye of Sauron: is explicitly an optional rule. It has been tweaked a bit, but there are some parties that will still have constant revelation events unless hidden by spells etc (this feels appropriate to the source material). In the published rules, after 3 adventures even if a company was fortunate enough to have discovered 3 famous weapons/armours in its opening three adventures is looking at 9 Eye Awareness, so they won't be triggering Revelation Episodes all the time. Starting Eye scores are lower as now you just check the highest Cultural score in the group and make other adjustments. In the Alpha you'd add up for each character, so a 2e Alpha Ranger, Barding, Dwarf, Elf party is 3+1+1+2 = 7 while in the published rules it would just take the highest number, 3.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PCs hitting all the time: against an Orc solider with a Strength 5 Barding you're TN 16 in 2E and TN 13 (open) or 16 (defensive) in 1e. It's pretty similar?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Enemies missing: Enemies in 2e can spend Hate/Resolve for +1d on attacks unlike in 1e. I find they hit often enough for my liking, but this is an easy way to make enemies more dangerous in 2e.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Edge" rating for weapons: Spears and arrows got a buff in published 2e, getting a larger bonus to the "Pierce" combat option than they enjoyed in the Alpha. Albeit I still think Axes are pretty strong relative to other weapon types. I miss Edge too, although the special combat options for 6s helps capture some of the 1e element and I'd love to see the list expand a little without overwhelming the game.</li> </ul><p></p><p>I like the pace of hope regaining in 2e:</p><p>- Hope isn't as reliable now (spent before a roll rather than after), but can generate a 6 (as it is an extra rolled dice rather than a static bonus. This can make for dramatic moments!).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harlath, post: 8515187, member: 48056"] That's a shame! Although as a longstanding 1e fan I think 2e is a significant improvement, I can see there are people who prefer 1e and I'm glad it is still there for them. i agree that 2e's journey rules are lot better. Some of the changes in the final 2e may well address some of your concerns. :) [LIST] [*]Flavour from cultural weapons: these can now be unlocked by deeds during play instead, and then selected with valour. See p188 for an example (this chapter wasn't in the alpha). [*]Magical treasures being too frequent: Core rules assume 6 treasure rolls across a 2-3 sessions adventure and a 1/6 chance of a treasure per roll. More likely to discover an treasure per adventure than not, but sometimes 0 and sometimes more than 1. But it will frequently "just" be a Marvellous Artefact/Wondrous Item rather than a Weapon/Armour. [*]Core song rules: can now be used to avoid the affects of Weariness across combats/councils/journeys. [*]Eye of Sauron: is explicitly an optional rule. It has been tweaked a bit, but there are some parties that will still have constant revelation events unless hidden by spells etc (this feels appropriate to the source material). In the published rules, after 3 adventures even if a company was fortunate enough to have discovered 3 famous weapons/armours in its opening three adventures is looking at 9 Eye Awareness, so they won't be triggering Revelation Episodes all the time. Starting Eye scores are lower as now you just check the highest Cultural score in the group and make other adjustments. In the Alpha you'd add up for each character, so a 2e Alpha Ranger, Barding, Dwarf, Elf party is 3+1+1+2 = 7 while in the published rules it would just take the highest number, 3. [*]PCs hitting all the time: against an Orc solider with a Strength 5 Barding you're TN 16 in 2E and TN 13 (open) or 16 (defensive) in 1e. It's pretty similar? [*]Enemies missing: Enemies in 2e can spend Hate/Resolve for +1d on attacks unlike in 1e. I find they hit often enough for my liking, but this is an easy way to make enemies more dangerous in 2e. [*]"Edge" rating for weapons: Spears and arrows got a buff in published 2e, getting a larger bonus to the "Pierce" combat option than they enjoyed in the Alpha. Albeit I still think Axes are pretty strong relative to other weapon types. I miss Edge too, although the special combat options for 6s helps capture some of the 1e element and I'd love to see the list expand a little without overwhelming the game. [/LIST] I like the pace of hope regaining in 2e: - Hope isn't as reliable now (spent before a roll rather than after), but can generate a 6 (as it is an extra rolled dice rather than a static bonus. This can make for dramatic moments!). [/QUOTE]
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