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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cyronax" data-source="post: 3922709" data-attributes="member: 822">Yeah I agree totally. It goes back to the point about segmentation and knowing how to adapt to it. Look at Ptolus for example ..... as far I understand, its a great setting that is very expensive, but delivers a lot to a few. Its a niche setting for people that usually frequent EN World, more than say Wotc's sites exclusively. And back to the point that TSR didn't care about their customers ...... I'd say this is accurate. I remember reading messages from Gary Holian, Erik Mona, and all of the self-described 'old guard' of Greyhawk on AOL in the mid-90s. They were often bitter and railed against TSR constantly about the path that GH took.Wotc comes along and BAM, GH is reborn into several awesome late-2e products, and will become the default setting for the core books and many adventures in DUNGEON magazine. Also don't forget Living Greyhawk, which essentially keeps GH alive. That said, I think Wotc deserves credit for really doing what they can to appeal to a number of fan bases. Anyway, I'm rambling, but the end point is that I think Wotc understands the situation they've created with 4e better than many on these boards give them credit for. They did a pretty good job with 3e, despite some criticisms, and they also helped create a market for innovation using a common mechanic for rules. Done rambling.C.I.D.</blockquote>