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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 9310930" data-attributes="member: 6689464">The PHB is still around though.This subclass can't tell any of the stories and backgrounds of the sorcerer. No &quot;grandma was a dragon&quot;, no &quot;I'm just magic&quot;, no &quot;please how can I stop this and be normal&quot;. And I don't see how you shifting the themes from the known subclasses onto other clases helps. You can't have the same characters if the elements can't be put togetherIf your argument on favor of this being a sorcerer is that you can houserule it into being one, then it isn't one. And the spellbook is far from a pure ribbon. And even ribbons are fictional space that matters. I know we've interacted over this before, but you keep claiming the same thing and I remain completely unconvinced.Mine and [USER=7034710]@CreamCloud0[/USER]'s subclasses get closer -way closer- to place the wizard under sorcerer than your subclass does. And I admit they fail to capture all of the wizard themes and characters. The subclass you show doesn't even try.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 9310930, member: 6689464"] The PHB is still around though. This subclass can't tell any of the stories and backgrounds of the sorcerer. No "grandma was a dragon", no "I'm just magic", no "please how can I stop this and be normal". And I don't see how you shifting the themes from the known subclasses onto other clases helps. You can't have the same characters if the elements can't be put together If your argument on favor of this being a sorcerer is that you can houserule it into being one, then it isn't one. And the spellbook is far from a pure ribbon. And even ribbons are fictional space that matters. I know we've interacted over this before, but you keep claiming the same thing and I remain completely unconvinced. Mine and [USER=7034710]@CreamCloud0[/USER]'s subclasses get closer -way closer- to place the wizard under sorcerer than your subclass does. And I admit they fail to capture all of the wizard themes and characters. The subclass you show doesn't even try. [/QUOTE]

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