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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9312338" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I agree that it could be possible, I certainly wouldn't tell a player that they couldn't do that. </p><p></p><p>However, it is also possible to have a monk whose backstory is that they were isekai'd after watching too many Bruce Lee films (I... may have done exactly that in a story I'm writing for a side character...) The difference I see in it is that, if you have your sorcerous origin in power from a n powerful entity, then it is a one and done situation. Like, you jumped in front of an iron crossbow bolt and saved a Fey Lord, so he uses his magic to heal you and reward you for saving him. But after that moment, you and that fey lord have nothing binding you together. The magic was a gift or a curse, not an ongoing deal.</p><p></p><p>To me, warlocks are almost the most egotistical class. They are the type of person who would stomp up to a God, shove the paper with the pact written on it into their face and say "We had a deal, pay up, or else". The contractual magic is key to the warlock identity, and it is key to all their stories. A Cleric would never do that (in my mind), a sorcerer wouldn't do that. Neither class has a sense to them that the source of their power OWES them something. Warlocks have it in writing, and that agreement puts them on equal footing with the beings they have made those deals with. [A key part of warlocks being possible to me, is that contract magic is cosmically enforced. Even a God would suffer from breaking a contract. Which is why no one breaks them.]</p><p></p><p>And I think, if you had a sorcerer who made a deal and got sorcerer powers, then it would be like being a cleric who got their powers from eating a god, or who are their own god either via a religion like the Blood of Vol or from being an Aasimar. Possible, but you are coloring outside the lines.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9312338, member: 6801228"] I agree that it could be possible, I certainly wouldn't tell a player that they couldn't do that. However, it is also possible to have a monk whose backstory is that they were isekai'd after watching too many Bruce Lee films (I... may have done exactly that in a story I'm writing for a side character...) The difference I see in it is that, if you have your sorcerous origin in power from a n powerful entity, then it is a one and done situation. Like, you jumped in front of an iron crossbow bolt and saved a Fey Lord, so he uses his magic to heal you and reward you for saving him. But after that moment, you and that fey lord have nothing binding you together. The magic was a gift or a curse, not an ongoing deal. To me, warlocks are almost the most egotistical class. They are the type of person who would stomp up to a God, shove the paper with the pact written on it into their face and say "We had a deal, pay up, or else". The contractual magic is key to the warlock identity, and it is key to all their stories. A Cleric would never do that (in my mind), a sorcerer wouldn't do that. Neither class has a sense to them that the source of their power OWES them something. Warlocks have it in writing, and that agreement puts them on equal footing with the beings they have made those deals with. [A key part of warlocks being possible to me, is that contract magic is cosmically enforced. Even a God would suffer from breaking a contract. Which is why no one breaks them.] And I think, if you had a sorcerer who made a deal and got sorcerer powers, then it would be like being a cleric who got their powers from eating a god, or who are their own god either via a religion like the Blood of Vol or from being an Aasimar. Possible, but you are coloring outside the lines. [/QUOTE]
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