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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9314933" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I agree with all of that. I'm also disappointed with what we've seen from 1D&D, I'm also disappointed the sorcerer seems to be stuck as a pale shadow of the wizard. But I'd much rather continuing fighting for a better sorcerer, than give up and kill the class that has some of the most integral themes to fantasy out of every single class in the game. Seriously, sitting in my room, looking around at my books? I count at least 17 book series I can see in front of me that have a main character born with great power innate to themselves. They didn't make a deal with something. They don't worship something. IF they study at all, it is to understand the power they were born with. They aren't tied to the forces of nature. They aren't bound by oaths and willpower. They don't lack magical or inhuman power. The sorcerer as a thematic concept is VITAL to fantasy. And losing it will do one of two things. It will harm DnD as a whole, or it will just make everyone turn that concept to every single other class with magic. Which they already try to do, by saying Wizards are born with magical talent that they then need to study to master. Which is the sorcerer trope. Not the Wizard or the Warlock or the Bard.</blockquote>