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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9315232">Well, the most immediate that stands out its Celestial Warlock, Divine Soul Sorcerer, Life Doman Cleric, but Grave Domain Cleric, Shadow Sorcerer, The Undead Warlock is another. There are even more overlaps between Cleric and Warlock or Cleric and Sorcerer as well.Thematic concepts are often tied to types of beings.Arcana definitely makes sense for a Warlock, if you want it. But that doesn't mean the warlock has studied magic. They could, sure, but the text in the PHB is generic enough to imply it is the norm.(bolded) Not necessarily. There are plenty of tales and stories where an entity comes to an individual and offers them power/magic in exchange for service or something else.I could be. My point was IME most people run it either one way or the other. Many people think once a Patron bestows magic, the Patron can't do anything to remove that magic from the Warlock. Others think that the Warlock's Pact with the Patron includes ongoing service, etc. or the Patron can deny additional power, if not remove it completely.I, personally, am not doing anything... just highlighting the most common viewpoints IME.In case you didn't realize this, it isn't my phrasing, but WotC's, taken directly from the PHB. Unless you were referencing just my comments on the Sorcerer and Warlock? In which case my phrasing really doesn't imply "channeling power" like the Cleric and Paladin IMO. With the sorcerer I simply said your blood (e.g. your magic) somehow came from the Entity, such as a Dragon infusing magic for the Draconic Bloodline. For Warlock, I am actually questioning, hence the question mark, whether the magic comes directly from the Patron.Anyway, Sorcerer's also "channel power from a specific individual force"---their own. So, they do work that way. Now, it is their's presently (as Sorcerer because of gaining it from an Entity (or their ancestor did), or from an Event.No, they are not a conduit for the dragon's magic, they are just a conduit for magic--linked by either their bloodline from an Entity or from the Event that changed their blood to be infused with magic.You seem to be thinking I am voicing it is one or the other. I put them both their because they are how the PHB says a sorcerer gets their power. From the "blood"(i.e. power) of an Entity (instilled in the sorcerer's blood) or by have the magic infused in their (or ancestor's) blood by the Event. Both are options for Sorcerers. The Event doesn't have to be an encounter with an Entity, but it could be. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />While I don't think druids as "divine", I have no issue with having Gods of Nature or Gods of Magic. In fact, the patheon we play in has both a God of Nature and a God of Magic.</blockquote>

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