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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Micah Sweet" data-source="post: 9315292" data-attributes="member: 6747251">I don't do multi-quote; it's annoying on my phone.  You are welcome to disagree with me on the power of the bard. I feel that a full-caster with a very diverse spell list, excellent support abilities outside of those spells, decent weapon proficiency, and a very strong skill monkey vibe is a little over the top, and feel they would be more in line as a half-caster.  It also to my mind strengthens the class's narrative by not basically making them wizard+ for magical versatility. Clerics have a more restricted spell list than bards, which helps, although their list is also getting crowded IMO.Also, since my plan takes nothing away from the wizard, please explain to me how what I'm suggesting would kill them.  The only thing I can think of it is an assumption on your part that sorcerers are so much more popular than wizards that the latter would wither in the swing halo of the former.</blockquote>