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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9317168" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Okay. So what? You can disagree that preventing the death of a character fits the themes of fantasy and is something good for the game, but you are vastly outvoted on that. So, objection noted and filed, but it doesn't have anything to do with the discussion of Vancian casting. Cool, and ad hominem attacks don't work on me. But if you want to put up that it is only a matter of opinion, then the fact that the majority opinion is against you means the majority has decided you are wrong. If you don't care about that, then why continue trying to convince people to go back to something they don't want? &quot;Well some people want it?&quot; Well.. the majority don't, so why should the majority move to your subjective wants? Cool, I did my own research and found no evidence of Vancian casting in OSR games, I listed some games I looked into. You rejected them. You didn't even seem to look into Invisible Sun, which was the only Vancian Casting I could find, which turns out is not an OSR game either. So, I did my research as you asked. I've done everything to&nbsp; prove a negative that I could do. Maybe you could show that I'm wrong by... finding some OSR games that use Vancian Casting? Otherwise it is my word with research against yours without. And shockingly, the evidence of my own eyes isn't something I dismiss because someone tells me to. I'm quirky that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9317168, member: 6801228"] Okay. So what? You can disagree that preventing the death of a character fits the themes of fantasy and is something good for the game, but you are vastly outvoted on that. So, objection noted and filed, but it doesn't have anything to do with the discussion of Vancian casting. Cool, and ad hominem attacks don't work on me. But if you want to put up that it is only a matter of opinion, then the fact that the majority opinion is against you means the majority has decided you are wrong. If you don't care about that, then why continue trying to convince people to go back to something they don't want? "Well some people want it?" Well.. the majority don't, so why should the majority move to your subjective wants? Cool, I did my own research and found no evidence of Vancian casting in OSR games, I listed some games I looked into. You rejected them. You didn't even seem to look into Invisible Sun, which was the only Vancian Casting I could find, which turns out is not an OSR game either. So, I did my research as you asked. I've done everything to prove a negative that I could do. Maybe you could show that I'm wrong by... finding some OSR games that use Vancian Casting? Otherwise it is my word with research against yours without. And shockingly, the evidence of my own eyes isn't something I dismiss because someone tells me to. I'm quirky that way. [/QUOTE]

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