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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 9319528" data-attributes="member: 6786252"><p>I mean... "magic" as a specific term in D&D for things that do tap into the weave, and that includes druids - the iconic Primal spellcaster - for doing their magics. Primal, much like the word magic, kind of has specific connotations now - associated with the Inner Planes, druids, rangers and barbarians. Which dragons do not and are not.</p><p></p><p>I mean, hells, it even makes sense for dragons to be associated with the inner planes, and everything lorewise, but WotC never took that step, and calling them Primal kind of misleading in this case.</p><p></p><p>Dragons are creatures of the Material Plane, and they run the gamut from animal-like intelligence to ignominious brutes to highly sophisticated intellectuals that spend their entire lives organizing uber-libraries. Their non-spell abilities that lets them fly and breath flames are magical from the perspective of Earth, but from the perspective of Faerun? Dragon flight and breath are completely normal things.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Speak for yourself. I live on World of Darkness Earth. Gotta watch out for those vamps and woofs and willworkers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The class fantasy is just a vibe. A feeling. It doesn't have to be literally true, it just has to <strong><u><em>feel</em></u></strong> true to enough people. </p><p></p><p>Fighters being able to have a core class feature that lets them fly or teleport is against the class fantasy. Its not going to pass muster. The ability to deal magical damage as a feature is not part of the core class fantasy. </p><p></p><p>Those are all fine as part of the Eldritch Knight fantasy, because EKs are fighter-wizard hybrids, and its part of that fantasy. But not so much the town guard or the retired soldier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 9319528, member: 6786252"] I mean... "magic" as a specific term in D&D for things that do tap into the weave, and that includes druids - the iconic Primal spellcaster - for doing their magics. Primal, much like the word magic, kind of has specific connotations now - associated with the Inner Planes, druids, rangers and barbarians. Which dragons do not and are not. I mean, hells, it even makes sense for dragons to be associated with the inner planes, and everything lorewise, but WotC never took that step, and calling them Primal kind of misleading in this case. Dragons are creatures of the Material Plane, and they run the gamut from animal-like intelligence to ignominious brutes to highly sophisticated intellectuals that spend their entire lives organizing uber-libraries. Their non-spell abilities that lets them fly and breath flames are magical from the perspective of Earth, but from the perspective of Faerun? Dragon flight and breath are completely normal things. Speak for yourself. I live on World of Darkness Earth. Gotta watch out for those vamps and woofs and willworkers. The class fantasy is just a vibe. A feeling. It doesn't have to be literally true, it just has to [B][U][I]feel[/I][/U][/B] true to enough people. Fighters being able to have a core class feature that lets them fly or teleport is against the class fantasy. Its not going to pass muster. The ability to deal magical damage as a feature is not part of the core class fantasy. Those are all fine as part of the Eldritch Knight fantasy, because EKs are fighter-wizard hybrids, and its part of that fantasy. But not so much the town guard or the retired soldier. [/QUOTE]
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