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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9325155" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>The fighter write up doesn't mention magic at all. </p><p></p><p>The Arcane Archer, Eldritch Knight, Rune Knight, Psi Warrior, and Echo Knight are unarguably magical. You cannot argue they are not magical. </p><p></p><p>How is this possible? How can this subclasses exist, in the non-magical, always mundane fighter? Well, you are going to tell me it is because those subclasses tell us that those subclass abilities exist. Therefore they exist. </p><p></p><p>Okay. Nothing in the Fighter description says anything about Second Wind, Action Surge, or Indomitable. How is it possible these things exist? The game states they have these abilities and therefore they have them right? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, so we want to add new abilities to the fighter, that would allow them to reach beyond their current limits. But, the argument is there is no justification for those abilities. Nothing in the fighter says they have these abilities.... just like nothing outside of action surge says action surge is possible and nothing outside of the Echo Knight says that making a shadow clone of yourself is possible. People are using the class description as it exists to pre-justify not adding new abilities, which will be justified by their own existence JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9325155, member: 6801228"] The fighter write up doesn't mention magic at all. The Arcane Archer, Eldritch Knight, Rune Knight, Psi Warrior, and Echo Knight are unarguably magical. You cannot argue they are not magical. How is this possible? How can this subclasses exist, in the non-magical, always mundane fighter? Well, you are going to tell me it is because those subclasses tell us that those subclass abilities exist. Therefore they exist. Okay. Nothing in the Fighter description says anything about Second Wind, Action Surge, or Indomitable. How is it possible these things exist? The game states they have these abilities and therefore they have them right? Okay, so we want to add new abilities to the fighter, that would allow them to reach beyond their current limits. But, the argument is there is no justification for those abilities. Nothing in the fighter says they have these abilities.... just like nothing outside of action surge says action surge is possible and nothing outside of the Echo Knight says that making a shadow clone of yourself is possible. People are using the class description as it exists to pre-justify not adding new abilities, which will be justified by their own existence JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. [/QUOTE]
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