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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8861276" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I don't agree with this ability, nor the trope that Rangers need to be outdoor guerilla stealth warriors.Thematically I think Rangers should cast spells like everyone else and if they want to be a stealth warrior - well that is what martial weapon proficiency and expertise are for ..... but if I want to take their specialization in performance and use wands, scrolls and other magic items, that should be supported too.Metamagic adept or a sorcerer multiclass should remain available for Rangers who want subtle spell casting.&nbsp; Maybe you can roll it into a subclass instead of another ability, although it is kind of powerful and I would say this should be the primary ability of the subclass and should either require a bonus action to activate (so an action to cast the spell and a bonus action to make it subtle) or it should be limited in uses to PB per day or both.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8861276, member: 7030563"] I don't agree with this ability, nor the trope that Rangers need to be outdoor guerilla stealth warriors. Thematically I think Rangers should cast spells like everyone else and if they want to be a stealth warrior - well that is what martial weapon proficiency and expertise are for ..... but if I want to take their specialization in performance and use wands, scrolls and other magic items, that should be supported too. Metamagic adept or a sorcerer multiclass should remain available for Rangers who want subtle spell casting. Maybe you can roll it into a subclass instead of another ability, although it is kind of powerful and I would say this should be the primary ability of the subclass and should either require a bonus action to activate (so an action to cast the spell and a bonus action to make it subtle) or it should be limited in uses to PB per day or both. [/QUOTE]

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