Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
One time only metamagics?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="winterwolf" data-source="post: 2440643" data-attributes="member: 34572"><p>As a note, I used the table in the SRD dealing with creating magic items to figure out how much a rod of quicken spell (lesser) would cost with no maximum uses per day. The item turned out to be 58,333.33g. If the same rod were to be useable only once per day, this would become 11,666.66g. THis item is still pretty powerful, but you might balance that out by giving it a curse (maybe it deals 4pts of damage per level of the spell to be quickened, or maybe it "burns" up a spell of the level to be modified, as well as the spell to be modified). Both curses could conceivably knock a couple thousand g off of the final price. </p><p>In 3.0 you could modify items so that only one type of class could use them. You could apply that here (DM fiat) and state that only arcane or divine (depending on BBEG) can use the item. This used to drop 30% (i think) off of the price. The final price for the cursed, class-specific item would be around 7000g (good for a reward for any low level BBEG, and if it works right, the party won't even get it as a reward...). </p><p>Math: </p><p>Rod of quicken spell (lesser): 35000g (3 charges/day) </p><p>Bringing said item to 5 charges would mean dividing the 35000g by (3/5) or multiplying by (5/3) depending on which you find easier. This would bring the price of a lesser rod of quicken spell (lesser) up to 58333g. </p><p>Dropping the 5 charges per day to 1 charge per day means you divide the entire cost by 5, leaving it 11333g. </p><p>Take off the 1333g for a curse (a number I assigned arbitrarily, but fairly IMO) to make the item an even 10000. Take off another 30% to make the item specific to arcane or divine spells (or even a specific class) to leave the item at 7000g.</p><p>If the BBEG made the item himself, it would only cost him 3500g (and any BBEG that can't get ahold of 3500g shouldn't be a BBEG).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="winterwolf, post: 2440643, member: 34572"] As a note, I used the table in the SRD dealing with creating magic items to figure out how much a rod of quicken spell (lesser) would cost with no maximum uses per day. The item turned out to be 58,333.33g. If the same rod were to be useable only once per day, this would become 11,666.66g. THis item is still pretty powerful, but you might balance that out by giving it a curse (maybe it deals 4pts of damage per level of the spell to be quickened, or maybe it "burns" up a spell of the level to be modified, as well as the spell to be modified). Both curses could conceivably knock a couple thousand g off of the final price. In 3.0 you could modify items so that only one type of class could use them. You could apply that here (DM fiat) and state that only arcane or divine (depending on BBEG) can use the item. This used to drop 30% (i think) off of the price. The final price for the cursed, class-specific item would be around 7000g (good for a reward for any low level BBEG, and if it works right, the party won't even get it as a reward...). Math: Rod of quicken spell (lesser): 35000g (3 charges/day) Bringing said item to 5 charges would mean dividing the 35000g by (3/5) or multiplying by (5/3) depending on which you find easier. This would bring the price of a lesser rod of quicken spell (lesser) up to 58333g. Dropping the 5 charges per day to 1 charge per day means you divide the entire cost by 5, leaving it 11333g. Take off the 1333g for a curse (a number I assigned arbitrarily, but fairly IMO) to make the item an even 10000. Take off another 30% to make the item specific to arcane or divine spells (or even a specific class) to leave the item at 7000g. If the BBEG made the item himself, it would only cost him 3500g (and any BBEG that can't get ahold of 3500g shouldn't be a BBEG). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
One time only metamagics?
Top