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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5147348" data-attributes="member: 35909">I like point buy and hate rolling.&nbsp; But I hate the PF version compared to 3.5.&nbsp; PF is set up so that you can nuke your scores down to 7 and recieve bonus points for it.&nbsp; Further, the point values it uses for average, high powered, etc... are just plain lower than the 3.5 values, especially since now the price jumps up in cost at 14 instead of 15.&nbsp; You basically have to nerf down some of your stats to get something as simple as a set of 14's for a multiple ability dependent class, while as I never felt comfortable lowering things below 8, and generally tired for at least 10's in anything.&nbsp; Point buy doesn't have to make for generic stats, though.&nbsp; Some people will value an extra bonus in the primary stat more than others.&nbsp; Some are more willing to have low scores in unimportant scores.&nbsp; Some end up with remaining points such that they go with an odd score in the highest stat so they can even it out as soon as they hit level 4.&nbsp; And racial choice always messes with it.Aaaaaaaanyway...Even if you do melee and I did ranged, two rangers is kinda pointless.&nbsp; So archer is out.&nbsp; I think I'm just going to stat up characters for a while and see what I like.&nbsp; And if the party has a gaping hole, I can just cover that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5147348, member: 35909"] I like point buy and hate rolling. But I hate the PF version compared to 3.5. PF is set up so that you can nuke your scores down to 7 and recieve bonus points for it. Further, the point values it uses for average, high powered, etc... are just plain lower than the 3.5 values, especially since now the price jumps up in cost at 14 instead of 15. You basically have to nerf down some of your stats to get something as simple as a set of 14's for a multiple ability dependent class, while as I never felt comfortable lowering things below 8, and generally tired for at least 10's in anything. Point buy doesn't have to make for generic stats, though. Some people will value an extra bonus in the primary stat more than others. Some are more willing to have low scores in unimportant scores. Some end up with remaining points such that they go with an odd score in the highest stat so they can even it out as soon as they hit level 4. And racial choice always messes with it. Aaaaaaaanyway... Even if you do melee and I did ranged, two rangers is kinda pointless. So archer is out. I think I'm just going to stat up characters for a while and see what I like. And if the party has a gaping hole, I can just cover that. [/QUOTE]

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