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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mike Sullivan" data-source="post: 1036275" data-attributes="member: 9824">This is a multiple reply.Why not?  It's the way neutral clerics work, broadly speaking.  I think that it lacks a certain something in terms of aesthetic loveliness, but if one is willing to allow Chaotic monks to have Chaotic-penetration, and Lawful monks to have Lawful penetration, then it stands to reason that you consider neither to be unbalancing.  Why not allow neutrals to choose?(For the record, I mean "choose once, and that's it," not "choose with every strike.")I agree that the flavour would have to be changed.  I just don't think any ability besides the Lawful-penetration does.Disagreement on three issues:1.  "Discipline is needed to use Wis for AC"Huh?  I don't think that there's any rationale for Wis/AC besides a preternatural awareness of what's going on around you.2.  "Discipline and Lawful run pretty much together"Not in martial-arts fantasy.  There are plenty of trickster, unpredictable, practical jokers who are none the less great masters and/or people who have achieved enlightenment, in the genre which inspires Monks.3.  "Reality - the very thing we are striving to recreate in certain ways"You may be.  In as much as I'm trying to recreate anything with Monks, it's wuxia genre conventions, not reality.I also scoff at the idea that Monks as-is come within a long-distance chi-enhanced spitting range of reality, either in terms of their abilities or any particular philosophy.EDIT:  Note that I agree that the discipline/lawful thing is what WotC had in mind when they came up with the lawful restriction for Monks.</blockquote>

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