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<blockquote data-quote="Wyvernhand" data-source="post: 5373672" data-attributes="member: 97681"><p>Crusaders are a divine themed melee class (they receive their maneuvers granted in a "spark of divine inspiration".</p><p> </p><p>Also, the power creep arguement of ToB falls apart REALLY quickly. Power creep implies that total power level is increasing by a noticable degree. Spellcasting in core is the most powerful thing in the game. Adding extra books gives a slight boost to spellcasters (there are some pretty big offenders like Celerity, Incantatrix, etc) because spells in the PHB are already some of the best, most powerful spells printed. Adding more books (including ToB) increases non-spellcaster's power by a MUCH larger delta though. Outside of a handful of decent tricks, non-spellcasters are pretty much lame ducks next to a core spellcasting. ToB helps close the gap. Thus, its not so much as a power creep, but a decent attempt at closing a power gap. If your end goal is "balance", you'd actually be best off banning 90% of the PHB (except feats and skills, and maybe the Bard) and playing with the later published classes like Warblade, Dragonfire Adept, Totemist, Factotum, and Binder. Those classes are all VERY well balanced against each other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wyvernhand, post: 5373672, member: 97681"] Crusaders are a divine themed melee class (they receive their maneuvers granted in a "spark of divine inspiration". Also, the power creep arguement of ToB falls apart REALLY quickly. Power creep implies that total power level is increasing by a noticable degree. Spellcasting in core is the most powerful thing in the game. Adding extra books gives a slight boost to spellcasters (there are some pretty big offenders like Celerity, Incantatrix, etc) because spells in the PHB are already some of the best, most powerful spells printed. Adding more books (including ToB) increases non-spellcaster's power by a MUCH larger delta though. Outside of a handful of decent tricks, non-spellcasters are pretty much lame ducks next to a core spellcasting. ToB helps close the gap. Thus, its not so much as a power creep, but a decent attempt at closing a power gap. If your end goal is "balance", you'd actually be best off banning 90% of the PHB (except feats and skills, and maybe the Bard) and playing with the later published classes like Warblade, Dragonfire Adept, Totemist, Factotum, and Binder. Those classes are all VERY well balanced against each other. [/QUOTE]
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