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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 7901616" data-attributes="member: 813">The DM should always take the foes' capabilities. I'm not getting it. The DM picks a level for this foe. If he thinks the PCs will fight him, he better prepare a stat block for him. You make it sound like the DM is surprised the king has evasion or not.Again, I say so. If you players are so up to date on game mechanics that they know, because they read a book 20 years ago, that the character they are fighting may or may not have evasion, they are not playing inside the rules. They are metagaming.When the DM says, &quot;he twists supernaturally and takes no damage from the fireball,&quot; they can react out of character &quot;hey he has evasion&quot; but in character, they just have to roll with it and try a different way to defeat him.But now I'm not excepting your argument's sake. How are the PCs in one-on-one combat with a king? When the wizard casts fireball, a volley of 50 crossbow bolts should come flying at him from the balcony as the king's guard make a pin cushion out of him. He can merrily go to his grave having been &quot;right&quot; that the king did not have evasion because he was 14th level.The characters should not know the class/level of their opponents. And complaining &quot;Hey, in that book released in 1989, this guys is only 7th level&quot; should be responded to with &quot;He's gained a few levels since 1989.&quot; (Or, if you're really surly, &quot;Who's the DM again?&quot;)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 7901616, member: 813"] The DM should always take the foes' capabilities. I'm not getting it. The DM picks a level for this foe. If he thinks the PCs will fight him, he better prepare a stat block for him. You make it sound like the DM is surprised the king has evasion or not. Again, I say so. If you players are so up to date on game mechanics that they know, because they read a book 20 years ago, that the character they are fighting may or may not have evasion, they are not playing inside the rules. They are metagaming. When the DM says, "he twists supernaturally and takes no damage from the fireball," they can react out of character "hey he has evasion" but in character, they just have to roll with it and try a different way to defeat him. But now I'm not excepting your argument's sake. How are the PCs in one-on-one combat with a king? When the wizard casts fireball, a volley of 50 crossbow bolts should come flying at him from the balcony as the king's guard make a pin cushion out of him. He can merrily go to his grave having been "right" that the king did not have evasion because he was 14th level. The characters should not know the class/level of their opponents. And complaining "Hey, in that book released in 1989, this guys is only 7th level" should be responded to with "He's gained a few levels since 1989." (Or, if you're really surly, "Who's the DM again?") [/QUOTE]

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