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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 7902330" data-attributes="member: 7015558">Ok we need to start over.Originally, I made a pitch for Greyhawk, saying that setting is more similar to Medieval Europe than the default setting, Forgotten Realms (it is not exactly Medieval, but it's closer than FR). I also had other arguments for GH including it's tone and larger theme.Then I got dragged into this weirder debate where someone said "Oh actually, Greyhawk's not medieval either," which I know it's not, I just think it's closer to FR (and I wanted that difference to be emphasized).Now I'm somehow in an even weirder argument that I don't even want to be in, about FR, of people saying how close it is to medieval history.So I'm going to restate my original statement; I find Greyhawk to be a grittier setting than the default setting of 5e (being FR). Although this is not consistent throughout all GH products, I find that world to be a harsher one than FR, where the threats are more pressing and dangerous, where the rulers are typically more pragmatic and less heroic, and the focus is more survival than good vs. evil. In some respects, GH's society is more reflective of a realistic medieval setting, than FR's more high-minded renaissance one.This POV by the way is largely shared by Mike Mearls, which you can hear his thoughts here;[MEDIA=youtube]_o-_4xEJ2PE[/MEDIA]</blockquote>