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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dakkareth" data-source="post: 1857192" data-attributes="member: 9928">Well, according to the text (most likely a 2e holdover :\) it's not a penality, nor ability damage, nor drain, but a 'decrease' to 8, whatever that is - this condition not being listed in the rules was the main source of my uncertainty.I'm perfectly fine with your ruling though, even if you change it again. I just needed to know in order to gauge, how Merion would see CoP - just another divination, a somewhat risky tool or a potentially deadly (indirectly anyway) straw to grasp for in desperate situations. Being more flexible than commune there should be a drawback and the risk that remains even with a means to remove the very harsh spellcasting loss is IMO appropriate. Plus it's a fun mental image to interrupt some god and get slapped in return. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Mmhhh, I only now noticed, that we're playing in the FR and I spoke about Merion feeling some philosophical connection to Wee Jas earlier. Maybe I should read up on what gods exist where ... never played a cleric  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh    :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> (Can you tell I had a little to much time yesterday to think about all this? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />)EDIT:I realize that I'm being a little petulant, but wouldn't the negative energy plane coun't as 'appropriate' (as per the table) for matters concerning the dead and undead, just like you'd contact the elemental plane of fire to ask about an efreet? Of course I'm perfectly fine with any call you might make about this change to the RAW.[SPOILER]I seem to be unable to restrain myself when it comes to such matters. I do claim artistic reasons instead of munchkinry, though - when I first skimmed over the table I blindly assumed it worked like that, thought 'Neat, that should be something Merion will like' and added it to the spell list for this kind of thing - petition the ancient lichs of the negative energy plane for secret knowledge, etc. And as in Planescape terminology the NEP belongs to the inner planes just like the elemental planes ...[/SPOILER]*hides*  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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