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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doghead" data-source="post: 1653873" data-attributes="member: 8243">This is were we seem to stand.I prefer option 3.Of the original players - one is for option 3.Of the applicants - one doesn't mind, one would prefer option 2.Option 3 it is.Here are simple conversions of the original characters.Craddoc PyesHuman Male 1.Concept: Mountain farmer.Level 1 [12 cp build]bab: 0.5base saves: xxx +1skill points: 4 + 1 [human] = 5x4 = 20 (+8)feats: light ap [auto], simple wp [auto], entry: self sufficient [human], entry: toughness [4], entry: endurance [4], entry*: robust [4].* worst case cost. I don't have the source book for this feat.Nathan ay'TennarHuman Male 1Concept: Blacksmith.Level 1 [6 CP build]bab: 0.5base saves: will +1, will +1 [1]skill points: 4 + 1 [human] + 2 [int] + 2 [1] = 9x4 = 36feats: light ap [auto], simple wp [auto], entry: power attack [human], entry: skill focus (craft) [4]Hewik LeafwingHafling Male Tallfellow 1.Concept: Herder.Level 1 [15 CP build]bab: 0.5base saves: xxx +1skill points: 4 + 3 [int] = 7x4 = 28 (+8)feats: light ap [auto], simple wp [auto], entry: animal affinity [4], entry: dodge [4], progression: mobility [3], entry: skill focus (handle animal) [4].Oscar de ReignHuman Male 1Concept: Aristocrat.Level 1 [8 CP build]bab: 0.5base saves: will +1, will +1 [1]skill points: 4 + 1 [human] + 2 [int] = 7x4 = 28.feats: light ap [auto], simple wp [auto], entry: mounted combat [human], progression: martial wp (sword) [3], entry: weapon finess [4].Cromwell Of St Richard'sHalf-orc Male 2Concept: Soldier of God.Level 1 [9 CP build]bab: 0.5 + 0.5 [2]base saves: fort +1, fort +1 [1]skill points: 4 + 1 [int] = 5x4 = 20 (+8)feats: light ap [auto], progression: medium ap [3], simple wp [auto], progression: weapon focus (maces) [3].Level 2 [+7 CP progression]bab: 0.5 + 0.5 [2]bases saves: fort +1, xxx +1 [1]skill points: 4 + 1 [int] = 5 (+2)feats: entry: improved toughness [4].***The Commoner characters pushed the cp's a bit with the bonus feats that I gave them. Everyone else would do as well or better with even an 8 CP build.* With one exception - weapon proficiencies. Collecting all the proficiencies of a warrior or aristocrat costs big CP's. Which is the way it should be really. Being proficient in all of the common weapons took alot of training.* but I'll probably go with 12 CP for first level, 8 CP after that.The conversions above are pretty much direct translations for the original characters. xxx indicates a save that does not correlated to the original and something need to be chosen. In Cromwells case, fort +1 cannot be taken a second time at level 2 in this system.Changes to the above are possible. Let me know what you have in mind.the head of the dog.</blockquote>

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