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<blockquote data-quote="The_Universe" data-source="post: 1834154" data-attributes="member: 8944"><p><strong>"Election Scenarios"</strong></p><p></p><p>Since I'm all in the mood for determining national leaders, today, I thought I would provide some background (for discussion's sake) on the varying scenarios for the Phoenix Kingdom: </p><p> </p><p>1) Jaine dies, doesn't marry anybody, both children live. </p><p>There are two subpossibilities in this case that must be examined, as well. </p><p>a) she gins up a decree that legitimates her fatherless children or</p><p>b) both children are questionably legitimate, since their father is unknown (or at least unclaimed). </p><p> </p><p>In 1a, the male child would be the next in line for the throne. Being a bit too young to effectively lead the rebellion, the throne would fall to either a regency council (probably made largely of the Circle), a specific regent (this could be a lot of people), or to the next best claimant to the throne. Since in this scenario the kid would technically be a bastard, his claim would be about as good as Archons. Since Archon is of ruling age already, the throne would more than likely fall to him. So, PROBABLY, <strong>1A = Archon</strong>. </p><p> </p><p>In 1b, the aforementioned regent or regency councils would be more likely, but you'd probably lose potential support from outsiders, since a decree of legitimacy without a father isn't going to fly terribly well with the rest of the nobles in the kingdom. You're in for a tougher fight for support, but Archon's son would still end up with the throne, since succession goes to male children first, <em>and </em>the daughter is likely to be marked. In both 1a and b, she'll probably have to be hidden to make the succession work. Thus, <strong>1B = Archon Jr</strong>., but with a larger chance of broad defeat. </p><p> </p><p>2) Jaine marries AA, dies, both kids live. </p><p>In this scenario, Jaine marrying AA would make him King, and her Queen. She'd probably be the ruler and he the consort until she died, but at that point, he'd become <em>ruling</em> King, and his children would remain rightful heirs. Upon AA's death, the son becomes king. <strong>2 = Archon</strong>, pretty good all around, as long as Archon can act kingly. Support for the rebellion remains prety much as it is. </p><p>(as a secondary note, after Jaine died, Archon would be free to pursue other lovers/wives after a suitable period of mourning). </p><p> </p><p>3) Jaine marries AB, dies, both kids live. </p><p>In this scenario, AB becomes king, just like AA would have. This would solidify an alliance with the Bluestar, which would certainly increase your chances of victory over Tain, although it could decrease support among the nobles. Once Jaine dies, AB is King. However, once <em>he's</em> dead, the throne goes to Jaine's children, son first. <strong>3 = Archonus Bluestar</strong>, and then a normal succession. </p><p> </p><p>4) Jaine marries AB, lives, both kids live.</p><p>In this scenario, the throne will pass from Jaine to her son, even though AB would be King. The alliance remains strong, but broad support from the nobility will probably never happen, at least for a human generation or two. Both kids will be kept, and will seem to be AB's, even if they are AA's. Presumably, they will be free of whatever oath binds AB. Nonetheless, any additional children born of the union would be bound, unless the Bluestar is gone. <strong>4 = Jaine, then Archon Jr</strong>., but with a pall because of his assumed (if incorrect) parentage. </p><p> </p><p>5) Jaine marries Joe Somebody, dies, both kids live</p><p>In this scenario, Jaine marries some guy, so that the kids have a presumptive father. The marked daughter has to be hidden in order to make the <em>real</em> parentage less obvious. Joe can't become king because he is not a noble, and thus will only be the Royal Consort. At this point, the solution is identical to 1, but there are at least a few more valid choices as to how it could be handled. In later generations, Jaine's line will probably lose the throne, since Joe Somebody won't have strengthened Jaine's descendents claim on the throne, and will (in fact) have lessened it. <strong>5 = Archon or Regency, then Archon Jr.</strong></p><p> </p><p>6) Jaine marries AA, lives, both kids live</p><p>In this scenario, AA never becomes king. Jaine's throne passes to her son, both children can be raised together, just like with AB. The alliance with the Bluestar is not strengthened, but assuming that AA can be all kingly, the relationship with the nobility is better. Since Jaine lives, Archon would <em>not</em> be free to pursue other lovers/wives. <strong>6 =</strong> <strong>Jaine, then Archon Jr</strong>. </p><p> </p><p>There are more scenarios possible, but those seem to be the likely ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The_Universe, post: 1834154, member: 8944"] [b]"Election Scenarios"[/b] Since I'm all in the mood for determining national leaders, today, I thought I would provide some background (for discussion's sake) on the varying scenarios for the Phoenix Kingdom: 1) Jaine dies, doesn't marry anybody, both children live. There are two subpossibilities in this case that must be examined, as well. a) she gins up a decree that legitimates her fatherless children or b) both children are questionably legitimate, since their father is unknown (or at least unclaimed). In 1a, the male child would be the next in line for the throne. Being a bit too young to effectively lead the rebellion, the throne would fall to either a regency council (probably made largely of the Circle), a specific regent (this could be a lot of people), or to the next best claimant to the throne. Since in this scenario the kid would technically be a bastard, his claim would be about as good as Archons. Since Archon is of ruling age already, the throne would more than likely fall to him. So, PROBABLY, [b]1A = Archon[/b]. In 1b, the aforementioned regent or regency councils would be more likely, but you'd probably lose potential support from outsiders, since a decree of legitimacy without a father isn't going to fly terribly well with the rest of the nobles in the kingdom. You're in for a tougher fight for support, but Archon's son would still end up with the throne, since succession goes to male children first, [i]and [/i]the daughter is likely to be marked. In both 1a and b, she'll probably have to be hidden to make the succession work. Thus, [b]1B = Archon Jr[/b]., but with a larger chance of broad defeat. 2) Jaine marries AA, dies, both kids live. In this scenario, Jaine marrying AA would make him King, and her Queen. She'd probably be the ruler and he the consort until she died, but at that point, he'd become [i]ruling[/i] King, and his children would remain rightful heirs. Upon AA's death, the son becomes king. [b]2 = Archon[/b], pretty good all around, as long as Archon can act kingly. Support for the rebellion remains prety much as it is. (as a secondary note, after Jaine died, Archon would be free to pursue other lovers/wives after a suitable period of mourning). 3) Jaine marries AB, dies, both kids live. In this scenario, AB becomes king, just like AA would have. This would solidify an alliance with the Bluestar, which would certainly increase your chances of victory over Tain, although it could decrease support among the nobles. Once Jaine dies, AB is King. However, once [i]he's[/i] dead, the throne goes to Jaine's children, son first. [b]3 = Archonus Bluestar[/b], and then a normal succession. 4) Jaine marries AB, lives, both kids live. In this scenario, the throne will pass from Jaine to her son, even though AB would be King. The alliance remains strong, but broad support from the nobility will probably never happen, at least for a human generation or two. Both kids will be kept, and will seem to be AB's, even if they are AA's. Presumably, they will be free of whatever oath binds AB. Nonetheless, any additional children born of the union would be bound, unless the Bluestar is gone. [b]4 = Jaine, then Archon Jr[/b]., but with a pall because of his assumed (if incorrect) parentage. 5) Jaine marries Joe Somebody, dies, both kids live In this scenario, Jaine marries some guy, so that the kids have a presumptive father. The marked daughter has to be hidden in order to make the [i]real[/i] parentage less obvious. Joe can't become king because he is not a noble, and thus will only be the Royal Consort. At this point, the solution is identical to 1, but there are at least a few more valid choices as to how it could be handled. In later generations, Jaine's line will probably lose the throne, since Joe Somebody won't have strengthened Jaine's descendents claim on the throne, and will (in fact) have lessened it. [b]5 = Archon or Regency, then Archon Jr.[/b] 6) Jaine marries AA, lives, both kids live In this scenario, AA never becomes king. Jaine's throne passes to her son, both children can be raised together, just like with AB. The alliance with the Bluestar is not strengthened, but assuming that AA can be all kingly, the relationship with the nobility is better. Since Jaine lives, Archon would [i]not[/i] be free to pursue other lovers/wives. [b]6 =[/b] [b]Jaine, then Archon Jr[/b]. There are more scenarios possible, but those seem to be the likely ones. [/QUOTE]
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