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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The_Universe" data-source="post: 1881579" data-attributes="member: 8944">Yes there are, but neither are tied to the Bluestar in as strong a way as AB. Even if AB and Jaine were to marry, the twins are AA's, not AB's (even if we want the peasantry to believe that that is not the case). Thus, if AB's oath applies to his children, the twins are exempt, since they are not his children.  However, if Jaine miraculously survives the birth (definitely unlikely - Commune said she was a goner) any future children could be tied up in the oath thing, if it even reaches that far, which you do not know. I hope that clarifies things, a bit! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />   That's essentially the crux of it. Although The Bluestar may lay some claim to the children of Archonus Arendorr, the claim is certain to be a weak one. Archonus Bluestar's children may be a different story altogether. And, politically, the various claims to each others' thrones are marriage-dependent, not booty-dependent.   Just remember that AB is probably not much more bound than AA, in terms of severity. So, AB probably has as much leeway as AA does in his Oath to Jaine.  As a result, he can be trusted not to betray the Bluestar's interest, but as experience has taught, he can still do a lot of stuff that he may not like.  While there's no denying that having AB in the life of the Queen's children will result in the Bluestar having some influence on them, it's not tantamount to handing them to him on a silver platter.</blockquote>

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