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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steve Gorak" data-source="post: 9031865" data-attributes="member: 15132">Cool, thanks! I think I'll go with go with Reghedic. But to be sure, what is Winter wolf? Is this an intelligent animal language, or is this a tribe called the Winter Wolves?Cool, I'll kill the herbalism kit and swap it to Nature. The int penalty will hurt but I like the idea of a druid actually knowing Nature ;-)I swapped the musical instrument tool from outlander for leather worker's tools (felt it made more sense but my character doesn;t actually have the tools - just the knowledge). If ok, which skill would that be?The accounting is in the "money" spoiler block: It's baseline equipment, but I removed some items to get studded leather. Here are the details (also in the spoiler block): - means removed (so positive gp) and + means purchased (negative gp)Additional equipment purchased: sling 1 spSling bullets (40) 8 cp 3 lb.Accounting: - scimitar from druid(+25 gp), - leather armor from druid (+10 gp) – starting gold from background (+10 gp) + studded leather (-45gp) – hunting trap from background (+3.75 gp), + sling & bullets additional equipment purchased (-0.18 gp) - staff from background (+ 2sp)FYI, the spell description says you can't freeze the water if a creature is in it.So I should replace "water" in the spell description to "liquid water" right?hmmm, it's hard to conceive shenanigans without knowing your boundaries for this spell ;-)So you understand where I'm coming from, since snow is already frozen water, you can't "freeze" it, just densify it to make ice (push it together, hence the notion of moving the snow). I would use the spell mostly for utility (although I like the idea of falling ice on enemies, and I agree that the damage needs to be on par with other cantrips, with a dex save or spell attack roll, your call). So here are some scenarios for your evaluation<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">So is it a clear no to move snow or ice 5ft (first bullet in the spell description) - only "liquid water" can be moved this way? The first bullet says: You instantaneously move or otherwise change the flow of the water as you direct, up to 5 feet in any direction. This movement doesn’t have enough force to cause damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How about the other bullets in the spell description:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can the spell create simple shapes of snow or ice that can be animated? (You cause the water to form into simple shapes and animate at your direction. This change lasts for 1 hour.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can the spell change the opacity or color of ice or snow? (You change the water’s color or opacity. The water must be changed in the same way throughout. This change lasts for 1 hour.)</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Densifying snow to ice is ok, right? Is this movement (i.e. squeezing the snow together)?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can you de densify ice to snow? Not sure when this could be used but still checking. This is clearly outside the spell's description, so I imagine it's on par as thawing snow, so likely no</li> </ul>Practical example:Could the spell clear out accumulated snow in front of a cave entrance? ( move 5 ft cubes repeatedly)Could the spell allow moving snow to create a small ice barrier (move 5 foot cube of snow to make a  barrier of ice for cover?With enough castings, could one make an igloo if enough snow is available? How about an ice igloo?Could one make a fishing hole in a frozen lake to fish or other (i.e make a hole behind an enemy to push them)?Could one move snow to hide tracks as one is walking?Awesome!Thanks and cheers,SG</blockquote>

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