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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 8106590" data-attributes="member: 59816">Just in case it's unclear: There'd be no way to bring the Wagon to the riverside orc camp. No road, increasing elevation. Theoretically, you could bring Blaze, the Warhorse, but that wouldn't be easy (increasing the overall stealth dc).As Tommi suggested, you could take the Wagon to the Western roadside camp, but you'd be passing the main encampment in the garden while travelling about a mile down the road that passes through the garden. The main orc camp is north of the road, but there'd be a strong possibility of alerting them. I think that if you want to hit the western camp, you'd want to circle south.You could do that from this camp, following the creek past the Swan's Nest, going through the forest, and come up from the south, but then you'd want to leave the wagon where it is (maybe move it away from the rocky overhang, though - there's probably orcish runners that keep the camps communicating that might stumble upon it). Or the wagon could make a very dangerous run for the manor alone. If that's done quickly, it has a decent chance of making it, but it's risky.I'm happy either way.</blockquote>