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<blockquote data-quote="Kelleris" data-source="post: 1857254" data-attributes="member: 19130">Rikandur - Well, it would probably be reasonable for you to keep your current bonuses.&nbsp; I think your position as the guy with the worst saves will remain secure.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't know where that bit about bullet points came from, though.&nbsp; They are eminently suited to this sort of discussion...Besides, Wrahn started it!&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> And I have been making a point to post at least once daily, you know.&nbsp; The game is probably slow because I introduced a need for mad rhymin' skills, as part of my nefarious plot to make you so sick of creative presentations that everyone will start using bullet points exclusively.Wrahn - You know what?&nbsp; I was going to respond to your comments, but in light of your utter obstinance on everything I have suggested, I think you have demonstrated yourself unwilling to compromise.&nbsp; Instead of proposing a compromise solution, as I have repeatedly asked you to do, you argue against everything I say regardless of whether it is really materially affecting you or not and &quot;helpfully&quot; reread my character sheet for errors every time I do bring up something.Yeah, that's kinda my point, and kinda not.&nbsp; Half of my point is that certain people have saves that are completely, across the board, better than other people, creating a difficult situation for the DM.&nbsp; The things that challenge some people's Fort saves don't even involve a meaningful d20 roll for other people.&nbsp; Likewise, I agree with you about the save disparity.&nbsp; However, I think that this is something we can pretty easily self-regulate to correct, in the interests of having a more fun game.&nbsp; Since this idea is so alien to everyone that they refuse even to propose some acceptable compromise alternative, go ahead and forget I said anything.Think I'm misjudging your intent in arguing the way you have?&nbsp; Fine.&nbsp; The ball is in your court.&nbsp; Prove me wrong.They are guidelines, for the love of all that is good and holy.&nbsp; Not rules!&nbsp; And even if they were rules, so was the bag of rats in 3.0, and that didn't make it a good idea.&nbsp; I seem to be the only one that thinks so, but I'll go ahead and say it again: just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.Why don't we try looking at how much an item is worth, for a change, instead of all this mathematical hair-splitting?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kelleris, post: 1857254, member: 19130"] Rikandur - Well, it would probably be reasonable for you to keep your current bonuses. I think your position as the guy with the worst saves will remain secure. :D I don't know where that bit about bullet points came from, though. They are eminently suited to this sort of discussion... Besides, Wrahn started it! :p And I have been making a point to post at least once daily, you know. The game is probably slow because I introduced a need for mad rhymin' skills, as part of my nefarious plot to make you so sick of creative presentations that everyone will start using bullet points exclusively. Wrahn - You know what? I was going to respond to your comments, but in light of your utter obstinance on everything I have suggested, I think you have demonstrated yourself unwilling to compromise. Instead of proposing a compromise solution, as I have repeatedly asked you to do, you argue against everything I say regardless of whether it is really materially affecting you or not and "helpfully" reread my character sheet for errors every time I do bring up something. Yeah, that's kinda my point, and kinda not. Half of my point is that certain people have saves that are completely, across the board, better than other people, creating a difficult situation for the DM. The things that challenge some people's Fort saves don't even involve a meaningful d20 roll for other people. Likewise, I agree with you about the save disparity. However, I think that this is something we can pretty easily self-regulate to correct, in the interests of having a more fun game. Since this idea is so alien to everyone that they refuse even to propose some acceptable compromise alternative, go ahead and forget I said anything. Think I'm misjudging your intent in arguing the way you have? Fine. The ball is in your court. Prove me wrong. They are guidelines, for the love of all that is good and holy. Not rules! And even if they were rules, so was the bag of rats in 3.0, and that didn't make it a good idea. I seem to be the only one that thinks so, but I'll go ahead and say it again: [I]just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should[/I]. Why don't we try looking at how much an item is [i]worth[/i], for a change, instead of all this mathematical hair-splitting? [/QUOTE]

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