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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mad Hatter" data-source="post: 1861945" data-attributes="member: 23731">Wrahn, everyone is pretty much in the same ballpark.  Perivas is willing to change and drop a feat because Kell did and Ferrix is willing to change.  The only one holding up the show happens to be you.  So why don't you go ahead and conform to the group; because if Kelleris was on the receiving end you too would be bemoaning the point and demonstrating how he is being disruptive.You're exasperated?  How about your fellow players who look over at your character sheet and see this massive block of cheese and brokenness that isn't even funny?  Your fellow players have a problem big enough that they are working together to get a solution and you simply look at the words and say:  "Well the guidelines support what I do."  Well how about showing a little constraint and consideration to the people who are playing with you?  What would it take?  How does that look that everyone else is willing to give up *something* and you aren't?  You just rely on the good ol' guidelines. So the only thing that's making me scratch my head is why are you fighting so hard over this?  The purpose of this thread was to identify major sticking points and then fix it.  Kell has fixed something, Perivas is going to fix something and Ferrix will fix it if you do.  So we are asking you, player to player, to fix it.  We've had this long, painful discussion about if what we do is cheese or not, fair or not.  The majority of it has been spent commenting on Rahveon the Mountain Shaker.  Shouldn't that be a clue that maybe, just maybe, the Elephant isn't up to snuff and should be changed to be more accomodating?  Be a sport and fix it. Rikandur-  Wrahn won't take a beating. I defy anything to get past his defenses at all and not kill someone else in the party.  Simply gaze upon his character sheet and notice his immunities granted to him by items.  He has every immunity that Tsunami has, plus some, save poison.  Then you can tell me that he is balanced.</blockquote>

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