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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 3308817" data-attributes="member: 9037">I have a problem with how easy a lot of people think a paaldin should lose their paladinhood. They put them in a straight jacket one small misstep and boom lost paladinhood.I am DMing a paladin and playing one. I get so frustrated with the Dm and some of the players. There is a lot of argument in game by the other players, myself and the Dm about if I have slipped. There is such a difference of opinion on what is considered breaking your paladin vows.In my game I have made a rule that other players are not to bring up alignment issues in game and say I think what the paladin did is evil why is he still a paladin. I and only I will say if the paladin has fallen.I also am working on a code with the player. As far as I am cocerned as long as he follows his code there should not be a problem.This paladin thread reminds me of a situation in another game we had a paladin who followed a god who opposed all undead. This god believed that it was an unatural state and an abomination the paladin took an oath to uphold the tenets of his faith and to rid the world of any abominations. We came across a good lich. Because he did not detect as evil the paladin challenged him to honorable combat. The Lich  was destroyed in the combat. It caused a lot of arguments about how the paladin had fallen because he had killed a good creature.The Dm disagreed saying that it was not a good vs issue. It  was a paladin upholding the tenets of his faith, his vow to a lawfully good god.</blockquote>

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