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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 3308866" data-attributes="member: 9037">I was not talking about just this when I said so many people make a paladin fall because of a misstep.Let me ask you this what if Miko had heard all that she heard then detected evil on the group and they detected evil would it still be murder?Should she lose her paladinhood?Miko asked for guidence from her gods and since the gods are real in her world what was she supposed to think when she heard what she heard? Now if this happened in a game I DMed I would have her lose her powers not because she killed a man who she believed was betraying her order, her city and her gods, but because she took the law in her own hands. She had alternatives. And this belief was based on evidence she heard with her own ears right after she prayed to her gods asking for a sign.She also knows that an evil army is at the gates if she truly beoieves that Shojo has betrayed everything and is in allegience with Xylon them allowing him to live would be a mistake. Who knows what harm he could do. A city cannot afford to be divided at this moment. A live Shojo could cause much more disruption than a dead one. He could influence people to free him, or to follow and order without question that causes the guard to lose to Xylon.playing a paaldin sometimes means making a judgement call. Knowing what Miko heard and the fact that she asked for guidence right before all this happened I would be willing to give her a little more leeway. Its not like out of the blue she just walked into the throne room and killed Shojo.Actually if this ever happened in a game I would say the DM was being a major a&& who wanted the paladin to fall and set it up in such  away as to happen.</blockquote>

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