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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3454266" data-attributes="member: 18363">So it is impossible to determine the CR of an encounter involving, say, 8 Half-elf Fighters (half 2nd level, half 3rd level), 1 Human Wizard (8th level), and a Wight Fighter 4 (CR 7)? Granted, you would use an Encounter Level calculator, but if the Encounter level has a given CR that could result in an xp award then xp should be granted, I think. Using an online encounter calculator, a 12th level PC - on his own - has a Party level of 8 (equivalent to a party of four 8th level PCs). Also according to the calculator, 100 1/2 CR creatures (hobgoblins) has an encounter level of 11 (equivalent to one CR 11). An encounter of 4 8th level PCs against 1 CR 11 creature is considered "Very Difficult" and has a reward of 1800 xp and treasure equivalent to 7500 gp. I would guess that the 'treasure' is little more than about a hundred sets of non magical armor and weaponry - some in poor condition. That works out about right, actually: 150gp chain shirt + 15 gp longsword * 100 sets = 16500, then divide by 2 for a resale value of 8, 250gp - quite close to the 7500 gp suggested. Presume some of the armor to be leather and the price falls even close to the suggested value. Or at least that is how I would likely work it out.  :\</blockquote>