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<blockquote data-quote="SPoD" data-source="post: 3507205" data-attributes="member: 51268"><p>The 3.5 SRD does not match that text. This is the entire entry on <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#incorporeality" target="_blank">Incorporeality</a>:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Incorporeality</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Spectres, wraiths, and a few other creatures lack physical bodies. Such creatures are insubstantial and can’t be touched by nonmagical matter or energy. Likewise, they cannot manipulate objects or exert physical force on objects. However, incorporeal beings have a tangible presence that sometimes seems like a physical attack against a corporeal creature.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures are present on the same plane as the characters, and characters have some chance to affect them.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, by magic weapons, or by spells, spell-like effects, or supernatural effects. They are immune to all nonmagical attack forms. They are not burned by normal fires, affected by natural cold, or harmed by mundane acids.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Even when struck by magic or magic weapons, an incorporeal creature has a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source—except for a force effect or damage dealt by a ghost touch weapon.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures are immune to critical hits, extra damage from being favored enemies, and from sneak attacks. They move in any direction (including up or down) at will. They do not need to walk on the ground. They can pass through solid objects at will, although they cannot see when their eyes are within solid matter.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures hiding inside solid objects get a +2 circumstance bonus on Listen checks, because solid objects carry sound well. Pinpointing an opponent from inside a solid object uses the same rules as pinpointing invisible opponents (see Invisibility, below).</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures are inaudible unless they decide to make noise.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The physical attacks of incorporeal creatures ignore material armor, even magic armor, unless it is made of force (such as mage armor or bracers of armor) or has the ghost touch ability.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures pass through and operate in water as easily as they do in air.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures cannot fall or take falling damage.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Corporeal creatures cannot trip or grapple incorporeal creatures.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures have no weight and do not set off traps that are triggered by weight.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Incorporeal creatures do not leave footprints, have no scent, and make no noise unless they manifest, and even then they only make noise intentionally.</p><p></p><p>The word "Strength" does not even appear in it. </p><p></p><p>Further, the sample ghost in the Monster Manual has a Strength of 16.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't "note" any such word. From the section on ghostly weapons:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">When a ghost forms, all its equipment and carried items usually become ethereal along with it. In addition, the ghost retains 2d4 items that it particularly valued in life (provided they are not in another creature’s possession). The equipment works normally on the Ethereal Plane but passes harmlessly through material objects or creatures. A weapon of +1 or better magical enhancement, however, can harm material creatures when the ghost manifests, but any such attack has a 50% chance to fail unless the weapon is a ghost touch weapon (just as magic weapons can fail to harm the ghost).</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The original material items remain behind, just as the ghost’s physical remains do. If another creature seizes the original, the ethereal copy fades away. This loss invariably angers the ghost, who stops at nothing to return the item to its original resting place.</p><p></p><p>I don't see the phrase "incorporeal touch attack" in there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPoD, post: 3507205, member: 51268"] The 3.5 SRD does not match that text. This is the entire entry on [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#incorporeality]Incorporeality[/url]: [indent][b]Incorporeality[/b] Spectres, wraiths, and a few other creatures lack physical bodies. Such creatures are insubstantial and can’t be touched by nonmagical matter or energy. Likewise, they cannot manipulate objects or exert physical force on objects. However, incorporeal beings have a tangible presence that sometimes seems like a physical attack against a corporeal creature. Incorporeal creatures are present on the same plane as the characters, and characters have some chance to affect them. Incorporeal creatures can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, by magic weapons, or by spells, spell-like effects, or supernatural effects. They are immune to all nonmagical attack forms. They are not burned by normal fires, affected by natural cold, or harmed by mundane acids. Even when struck by magic or magic weapons, an incorporeal creature has a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source—except for a force effect or damage dealt by a ghost touch weapon. Incorporeal creatures are immune to critical hits, extra damage from being favored enemies, and from sneak attacks. They move in any direction (including up or down) at will. They do not need to walk on the ground. They can pass through solid objects at will, although they cannot see when their eyes are within solid matter. Incorporeal creatures hiding inside solid objects get a +2 circumstance bonus on Listen checks, because solid objects carry sound well. Pinpointing an opponent from inside a solid object uses the same rules as pinpointing invisible opponents (see Invisibility, below). Incorporeal creatures are inaudible unless they decide to make noise. The physical attacks of incorporeal creatures ignore material armor, even magic armor, unless it is made of force (such as mage armor or bracers of armor) or has the ghost touch ability. Incorporeal creatures pass through and operate in water as easily as they do in air. Incorporeal creatures cannot fall or take falling damage. Corporeal creatures cannot trip or grapple incorporeal creatures. Incorporeal creatures have no weight and do not set off traps that are triggered by weight. Incorporeal creatures do not leave footprints, have no scent, and make no noise unless they manifest, and even then they only make noise intentionally.[/indent] The word "Strength" does not even appear in it. Further, the sample ghost in the Monster Manual has a Strength of 16. I don't "note" any such word. From the section on ghostly weapons: [indent]When a ghost forms, all its equipment and carried items usually become ethereal along with it. In addition, the ghost retains 2d4 items that it particularly valued in life (provided they are not in another creature’s possession). The equipment works normally on the Ethereal Plane but passes harmlessly through material objects or creatures. A weapon of +1 or better magical enhancement, however, can harm material creatures when the ghost manifests, but any such attack has a 50% chance to fail unless the weapon is a ghost touch weapon (just as magic weapons can fail to harm the ghost). The original material items remain behind, just as the ghost’s physical remains do. If another creature seizes the original, the ethereal copy fades away. This loss invariably angers the ghost, who stops at nothing to return the item to its original resting place.[/indent] I don't see the phrase "incorporeal touch attack" in there. [/QUOTE]
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