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<blockquote data-quote="Mystaros" data-source="post: 3571369" data-attributes="member: 3921"><p>What happened here is what we classic players call "PC's Lost Track of the Action."</p><p></p><p>Note in #461 that it appears that the PC's have been arguing all this time, since they got away from the archers in #455. This is typical when the leader of the party is down and out, and you have a party that is otherwise not cohesive. During this time, Redcloak got in the castle, challenged and defeated the cleric, got into the throne room and started defeating the guardian spirits... that's a LOT of time. And what are the PC's doing?</p><p></p><p>Arguing about how to get into the castle!</p><p></p><p>In the old days, adventures didn't simply sit around waiting for the PC's to show up, just so that they could be the "heroes" of the "story". The PC's were the "heroes" only if they made the right decision at the right time; otherwise, they failed, and Bad Things happened. Victory was not handed to them in a script. A good DM has a timeline of events that will happen in the future, and takes into account changes that are made if the PC's intervene.</p><p></p><p>If Sam and Frodo had started arguing about who got to drink the last drop of water in Mordor, Bad Things would have happened.</p><p></p><p>If Luke had argued with Rebel Command instead of trusting the Force while on that last run on the Death Star, Bad Things would have happened.</p><p></p><p>Of course, in those cases, there were scripts. OOTS is not a scripted novel or movie; it is a recreation of a Dungeons & Dragons game.</p><p></p><p>The world does not revolve around the PCs. And the PC's in OOTS are about to find that out the hard way...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mystaros, post: 3571369, member: 3921"] What happened here is what we classic players call "PC's Lost Track of the Action." Note in #461 that it appears that the PC's have been arguing all this time, since they got away from the archers in #455. This is typical when the leader of the party is down and out, and you have a party that is otherwise not cohesive. During this time, Redcloak got in the castle, challenged and defeated the cleric, got into the throne room and started defeating the guardian spirits... that's a LOT of time. And what are the PC's doing? Arguing about how to get into the castle! In the old days, adventures didn't simply sit around waiting for the PC's to show up, just so that they could be the "heroes" of the "story". The PC's were the "heroes" only if they made the right decision at the right time; otherwise, they failed, and Bad Things happened. Victory was not handed to them in a script. A good DM has a timeline of events that will happen in the future, and takes into account changes that are made if the PC's intervene. If Sam and Frodo had started arguing about who got to drink the last drop of water in Mordor, Bad Things would have happened. If Luke had argued with Rebel Command instead of trusting the Force while on that last run on the Death Star, Bad Things would have happened. Of course, in those cases, there were scripts. OOTS is not a scripted novel or movie; it is a recreation of a Dungeons & Dragons game. The world does not revolve around the PCs. And the PC's in OOTS are about to find that out the hard way... [/QUOTE]
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