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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dmccoy1693" data-source="post: 4650627" data-attributes="member: 51747">I don't see V as a PC anymore, nor have I seen shim as a PC ever since the destruction of Azure City. Shim's done nothing but keep to it's self, research spells, avoid every combat, and just be annoying. To me that sounds more like a DM controlling a former PC simply for story continuity and turning shim to a major villian.  Oh and yea I'm firmly in the V has kids at this point in time. The look of terror on it's face is only one a parent has. If you don't have kids, that kind of terror doesn't grip you.  And seeking revenge for V's dead children is a perfect reason to accept whatever offer the imp puts forward. Dead children would make V not care about shim's "damnation".</blockquote>