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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 4668674" data-attributes="member: 813">I can't buy this at all. Spells are not spoken TO their targets. Who do you say &quot;clone&quot; to? &quot;Summon monster 3&quot;? Did the black dragon say &quot;Anti-magic Shell&quot; to V?The spells were cast at Kubota, they weren't spoken to anyone.Except that she tells the imp she wants a Faustian deal because she needs more arcane power. Saving her family seems almost incidental. She is doing it for the wrong reason. Of course this just means it's not the right 4 words since she should be petitioning hell to save her family. And again, that in itself is a wrong reason. Do you want to survive the black dragon to find out that your lover/parent consigned themselves to hell for you? Can you live with that? Who would burden their children with that reality? As a parent I can understand not thinking it through to that level. A true catch-22. But that's what Faustian deals are made of I suppose.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 4668674, member: 813"] I can't buy this at all. Spells are not spoken TO their targets. Who do you say "clone" to? "Summon monster 3"? Did the black dragon say "Anti-magic Shell" to V? The spells were cast at Kubota, they weren't spoken to anyone. Except that she tells the imp she wants a Faustian deal because she needs more arcane power. Saving her family seems almost incidental. She is doing it for the wrong reason. Of course this just means it's not the right 4 words since she should be petitioning hell to save her family. And again, that in itself is a wrong reason. Do you want to survive the black dragon to find out that your lover/parent consigned themselves to hell for you? Can you live with that? Who would burden their children with that reality? As a parent I can understand not thinking it through to that level. A true catch-22. But that's what Faustian deals are made of I suppose. [/QUOTE]

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