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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 4826649" data-attributes="member: 14159">Well, for Redcloak being able to destroy Xykon. . .Can a Lich actually innately know if something is its phylactery?  I don't think they can by the RAW.Could Redcloak subvert the retrieval process and have Xykon's phylactery cast into the Snarl Rift, while saying it was retrieved and is now secure?  Xykon would be unable to regenerate and would be destroyed forever if his body were lost, but he wouldn't know that and keep on being reckless and get himself killed.  We already know that Redcloak can make dummy Xykons with other undead, so he could even make it look to everyone that Xykon is still around.Xykon's power to the master plan is his arcane spellcasting being needed for the ritual to control the Snarl.  We don't know just how powerful it has to be.  I've thought it has to be Epic level, but since Redcloak is also needed and he can cast 8th level spells (and we don't know if it's any higher, but he didn't use it during the Battle of Azure City), maybe it's just 8th level spells.  Tsukiko isn't there yet, but could get there and Redcloak would have a lot easier time controlling that little gothling than Xykon.  Then again, maybe briefing Tsukiko on the master plan wouldn't be so hot: she's a Mystic Theurge which means she could be powerful enough in both Arcane and Divine magic to perform the ritual all by herself.I will certainly agree with you that one way or the other, when the time is right Redcloak will betray Xykon, it's a long slow build to it, but I certainly think it will happen (and you'll know the dung has hit the fan when you see Redcloak reveal himself to have two eyes again).  If Redcloak has a couple of levels by then, use True Resurrection on his brother while he's at it.</blockquote>

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