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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3045903" data-attributes="member: 6562">Same goes for Hobgoblin and Dwarf, though. Hobgoblin is infamous for being underpowered. A Hobgoblin is LA +1 just like a Kobold is LA +0. They are not meant to be serious contenders for a player's choice.Warforged is a good comparison because it shares traits with the Dralasite. It's also been looked at by a lot of people. The debate is rather split on the subject, but if your logical chain is Dralasite equates to Warforged, and Warforged implies overpowered, then I grant your first point and dispute your second. However, if that's your claim, the argument is really over -- I'm not going to try to convince you that Warforged are balanced. If you see Dralasites being equal (or slightly inferior to) Warforged, then I'm happy that my job is done. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;... spending twice as much on his weapons?I'm still not seeing how you actually plan on getting all these full attacks. It's hard for anyone (besides an archer) to get a full attack vs. someone who doesn't really want them to do so. Even harder for a 20 ft. movement guy.Could you please go into that?Maybe we should compare 25-pt buy characters instead of 32. I don't remember saying that 32 was a good place to look. The 'default' assumption is still 25, right?Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 3045903, member: 6562"] Same goes for Hobgoblin and Dwarf, though. Hobgoblin is [u]infamous[/u] for being underpowered. A Hobgoblin is LA +1 just like a Kobold is LA +0. They are not meant to be serious contenders for a player's choice. Warforged is a good comparison [b]because it shares traits[/b] with the Dralasite. It's also been looked at by a lot of people. The debate is rather split on the subject, but if your logical chain is Dralasite equates to Warforged, and Warforged implies overpowered, then I grant your first point and dispute your second. However, if that's your claim, the argument is really over -- I'm not going to try to convince you that Warforged are balanced. If you see Dralasites being equal (or slightly inferior to) Warforged, then I'm happy that my job is done. :) ... spending twice as much on his weapons? I'm still not seeing how you actually plan on getting all these full attacks. It's hard for anyone (besides an archer) to get a full attack vs. someone who doesn't really want them to do so. Even harder for a 20 ft. movement guy. Could you please go into that? Maybe we should compare 25-pt buy characters instead of 32. I don't remember saying that 32 was a good place to look. The 'default' assumption is still 25, right? Cheers, -- N [/QUOTE]

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