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<blockquote data-quote="gfunk" data-source="post: 864284" data-attributes="member: 1813"><p>I just pitted my PCs against a Black Pudding last night as a matter of fact . . . <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not a typo as far as I can tell. Also this is not necessarily illogical -- in the movie Aliens all of the bugs had acid for blood but they could still be injured by their own acid.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The pudding's acid touch, IMO, refers to it being able to dissolve things such as doors and iron bars and such. It requires a round (6 seconds) of continuous exposure.</p><p></p><p>"Any melee hit deals acid damage" refers to the +2d6 acid damage added to its slam damage.</p><p></p><p>You are correct on the damage the fighter is dealt, however his armor and clothes are safe unless the Black Pudding grapples him. Keep in mind that the Pudding may do this for free by virtue of its Improved Grab ability. If the Pudding gets a successful hold on the fighter, then the fighter must make a DC 23 Reflex save (DC 19 base and +4 penalty) or his armor/clothing goes bye bye.</p><p></p><p>The fighter can strike back and risk losing his sword (Reflex 19 negates).</p><p></p><p>Note that, if grappled, only his armor/clothing is gone not all his equipment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No damage. </p><p></p><p>The 50 points only applies if the Pudding is actively against a large wooden or metallic object (e.g. door/trunk/iron bars) trying to dissolve its way through.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A Black Pudding is to Fighters as Flesh Golems are to Wizards. </p><p></p><p>A Sor/Wiz (Level 6 or 7) can easily stay out of range of a Pudding and pelt it with damaging spells. It's Dexterity of 1 ain't gonna make those Reflex Saves easy.</p><p></p><p>However, if you have a party of all fighting types, then you are in for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gfunk, post: 864284, member: 1813"] I just pitted my PCs against a Black Pudding last night as a matter of fact . . . :p Not a typo as far as I can tell. Also this is not necessarily illogical -- in the movie Aliens all of the bugs had acid for blood but they could still be injured by their own acid. [B][/B] The pudding's acid touch, IMO, refers to it being able to dissolve things such as doors and iron bars and such. It requires a round (6 seconds) of continuous exposure. "Any melee hit deals acid damage" refers to the +2d6 acid damage added to its slam damage. You are correct on the damage the fighter is dealt, however his armor and clothes are safe unless the Black Pudding grapples him. Keep in mind that the Pudding may do this for free by virtue of its Improved Grab ability. If the Pudding gets a successful hold on the fighter, then the fighter must make a DC 23 Reflex save (DC 19 base and +4 penalty) or his armor/clothing goes bye bye. The fighter can strike back and risk losing his sword (Reflex 19 negates). Note that, if grappled, only his armor/clothing is gone not all his equipment. [B][/B] No damage. The 50 points only applies if the Pudding is actively against a large wooden or metallic object (e.g. door/trunk/iron bars) trying to dissolve its way through. [B][/B] A Black Pudding is to Fighters as Flesh Golems are to Wizards. A Sor/Wiz (Level 6 or 7) can easily stay out of range of a Pudding and pelt it with damaging spells. It's Dexterity of 1 ain't gonna make those Reflex Saves easy. However, if you have a party of all fighting types, then you are in for it. [/QUOTE]
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