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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6724188" data-attributes="member: 996">I have many times expressed my enjoyment of running 5e, my delight with it's success in getting the community to accept DM Empowerment (which I did not believe was going to work).&nbsp; I have defended 5e from unfair or ignorant criticism, and did the same for 3.5 when it was the current ed (and still do - especially the 3.5 fighter), as well as for 4e. I'm actually a fan of all three modern versions, and of 1e (and 2e isn't /that/ different from 1e), and will stand up for them when they're unjustly maligned.&nbsp; I'll also be honest about each edition's failings when those come up in a constructive way (for instance, in the game's and the community's desperate need to get over caster-supremacy issues).&nbsp; You may have noticed me rising to the defense of 4e a lot more than the other editions, but that's only because it has been maligned so much more and so much more unfairly than are other editions.&nbsp; What does that leave?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Nod.&nbsp; Of course, CHA has often been underpowered in the past, and other stats can pull double-duty in other areas (in exploration, for instance).&nbsp; It probably wouldn't be hard to add uses for WIS to the social pillar, as well.Sounds great. But, weren't Quaggoths pretty implacably hostile?&nbsp; (I only remember them from their first appearance, maybe they changed?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6724188, member: 996"] I have many times expressed my enjoyment of running 5e, my delight with it's success in getting the community to accept DM Empowerment (which I did not believe was going to work). I have defended 5e from unfair or ignorant criticism, and did the same for 3.5 when it was the current ed (and still do - especially the 3.5 fighter), as well as for 4e. I'm actually a fan of all three modern versions, and of 1e (and 2e isn't /that/ different from 1e), and will stand up for them when they're unjustly maligned. I'll also be honest about each edition's failings when those come up in a constructive way (for instance, in the game's and the community's desperate need to get over caster-supremacy issues). You may have noticed me rising to the defense of 4e a lot more than the other editions, but that's only because it has been maligned so much more and so much more unfairly than are other editions. What does that leave? ;) Nod. Of course, CHA has often been underpowered in the past, and other stats can pull double-duty in other areas (in exploration, for instance). It probably wouldn't be hard to add uses for WIS to the social pillar, as well. Sounds great. But, weren't Quaggoths pretty implacably hostile? (I only remember them from their first appearance, maybe they changed?) [/QUOTE]

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