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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6725107" data-attributes="member: 7635">Or there is the "Like the warlord concept, and wouldn't mind a class that fills a similar niche but adheres to the rules and fluff already established." In short, a class that can be dropped into a campaign and won't change the dynamics of the game any more than any other class would. Unfortunately, that calls for some compromise somewhere. Warlords are children of 4e; despite having a 3.5 ancestor, they were a class built around the concepts of 4e like healing surges, grid combat, a strict action economy, and martial powers. 5e lacks many of those direct elements.  They define things differently than 4e did. In 4e, being inspired meant being able to use a healing surge; in 5e its temporary hp. Granting a bonus to hit in 4e could be shown a dozen different ways and amounts; 5e lumps it all into advantage. A 5e warlord cannot rely on the 4e definitions of abilities to define it. It must find an identity somewhere inside 5e's paradigm. It can't demand Inspiring Word to work as it did in 4e anymore than a Fighter can demand Combat Superiority, or a Ranger Hunter's Quarry. The question becomes how do we make the warlord concept fit 5e, not how do we make 5e fit the warlord. Demanding ideological purity isn't going to answer that. The answer will involve some bending on both sides; the warlord might get healing on par with a cleric, but its backed up with pseudo-magical fluff. The warlord might have purely nonmagical recovery, but it takes the form of temp hp and healing kits. Both of these things won't appease the ardent "4e warlord or bust" crowd, nor the "no never in a million years" crowd, but for the majority of people who want to see a warlord and want it to fit 5e, its a start. But holding out for a pure 4e-ish warlord in a 5e world is like being the last Japanese soldier in WW2, you'll find you've been engaging a fruitless campaign while the rest of the world has moved on.</blockquote>

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