Open letter to Customers of SV Games (Consumer Complaint)

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Hi, my name is Doyle Wayne Ramos-Tavener, and I am writing this open letter to all current and future customers of SV Games.

I want to draw your attention to a recent order I placed with SV Games. Here’s a quote from the email confirming my order:

Name Code Qty Each Options
Hedge Magic ATG0252 1 13.31
Wizard's Grimoire ATG0258 1 22.21
The Mysteries ATG0265 1 19.54
The Medieval Bestiary: ATG0266 1 17.76
Revised Edition
Faeries, Revised Edition ATG1110 1 15.13
Subtotal 87.95
Shipping 6.99
Tax 0.00
Total 94.94

I chose to order from SV Games over other on-line stores because they indicated that they had in stock two supplements that were considered out-of-print by the publisher: The Mysteries and Faeries, Revised Edition. These were not presented as rarities, but as part of their remaining stock.

I had hoped that these supplements were still in the distribution pipeline, and was very happy when I read that SV Games still had them. Now, I should tell you that these products are available as less expensive PDFs, but I prefer hardcopy, if possible.

I received my order confirmation on March 10. On March 19, I received this follow up email on March 19 from an employee of SV Games:

Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, it appears that atg0265 and atg1110 are no longer available. We have attempted to source them from numerous suppliers but to no avail. As this is the case, would you like the balance of the order shipped to you?

I initially replied twice to this email. My first reply was a single word, “Yes.”

My second reply was a little more hot:

One additional note. These product are still listed on you website as available. Before someone else gives you money for something you don't have, review your catalog contents.

I will not be conducting any future business with your organization, if I can help it. I will also be posting this message on EN World and other public gaming boards, so as to encourage your prompt action.

Well, it has been four weeks since I sent that reply, and I still have not received my shipment of books.

I sent another reply today, asking for an update of the status of my order. They haven’t replied yet, but frankly I don’t expect them to until Monday or later.

And finally, you guessed it, they have yet to update their web page. Check it out for yourself:

http://www.svgames.com/rpg-atlas-arsmagcore.html

Business is, well, busy. I can understand not having enough time to do all that you need to. But SV Games has failed me three times as a customer:

* Listing items that they don’t have, and taking my money for them for twelve days before refunding my account.

* Not correcting their web page once I informed them that they should do so.

* Sending the items to me via “Slow Boat to China Express”. Like I said, I still have not received my remaining items one month after their request for shipping instructions.

I would advise anyone considering SV games to reconsider doing any business with them. If this had been done deliberately, I would call it ‘Bait and switch.’ For me, the result was the same, whether it was done deliberately or just as an honest mistake.

Doyle Wayne Ramos-Tavener

Cross-posted to Enworld.org and RPG.net
 

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I'm sorry to hear that. My own experience with them has always been prompt and professional. As I only am buying secondary market D&D miniatures from them, and they have always performed well, I will continue as I have in the past.

I will, however, consider this letter if I am looking to buy anything along the lines of an RPG book from them.
 

I've had this problem before when ordering Transformers from Junkshop USA. I went to put my order in, and was told that the ones I ordered were no longer in stock, and that they wouldn't be getting any more. No problem. I was disappointed, but I understood, and even suggested they remove them from the site so others wouldn't order them as well. That was in December. The items are STILL on their page for sale...


Chris
 

I've purchased some 2nd edition Forgotten Realms downloads from them, and I must admit that the quality of the scans is somewhat poor. The text is fuzzy when read at normal screen width, and one must enlarge the PDF in order to read it clearly. Printing out to hard copy only produces fuzzy pages and a migraine for the reader.

I will not purchase from them again.
 

Brother Ezra said:
I've purchased some 2nd edition Forgotten Realms downloads from them, and I must admit that the quality of the scans is somewhat poor. The text is fuzzy when read at normal screen width, and one must enlarge the PDF in order to read it clearly. Printing out to hard copy only produces fuzzy pages and a migraine for the reader.

I will not purchase from them again.
SVGames has no control over the scans of old TSR downloads. I can't speak to the original poster's problem but you should not blame them for something they don't control. The scans were done by a third party and given to SVGames (and RPGNow) on CD as is.
 

SVGames has a bad rep, formed especially when they sold a bunch of Chainmail minis and shipped them months late. It was a mess and I've never ordered from them since then. I do not abide fools well.
 


SVGames also burned me on the purchase of some old TSR ESDs. Bastion Press had indicated that Swords of the Daimyo, Volo's Guide to Waterdeep, Savage Baronies, and Elves of Athas had been fixed and the corrected versions were sent to the stores. SVGames had links to the old, incorrect versions, and completely ignored my e-mails for some time before finally responding to me. Someone called me on the phone and promised to check and get me the fixed versions, but I have not heard from them since, and that was months ago. I will never do business with these stonewalling incompetents again, and also highly recommend against any of you risking getting burned by them. Either go with someone local, or some online place with proven excellent customer service (I've had invariably outstanding dealings with frpgames and Talon Comics, for instance, although I understand others had issues with Talon when Derek was going through some tough times).
 

BrooklynKnight said:
<Hijack>
Ladies and Gentlemen, take this as an example, you should always support your FLGS. :-D
</Hajack>
Alas, some people don't have access to an LGS or FGS, much less an FLGS.
 

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