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<blockquote data-quote="The_Universe" data-source="post: 3025715" data-attributes="member: 8944"><p>Self nomination is OK by me - the vote process should sufficiently weed out judges who don't have the reputation/skill/whatever to serve. In short, I don't see any particular benefit to adding an additional hurdle to the judge selection process - I certainly can't/won't criticize the judging panel that has arisen from the current process. </p><p></p><p>I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of this proposal - to me, the two categories are measuring different things, using entirely different metrics. In the Best D20 Category, we're looking at how a game uses the strictures of the D20 system, whereas in the larger "best game" category, we're measuring an overall experience. To deny D20 games the chance to compete in the "Best Game" category at least implies that no D20 game can be the best - that's just silly, and a slap in the face to D20 publishers. </p><p></p><p>I agree that the "Best D20" category should be kept as a nod to both a) the structure of the market, and b) the origins of the awards. However, if D20 games are to be barred from competition in what is now called the "Best Game" category, it should at least be clarified - make the categories "Best D20" and "Best Non-D20" so that the exclusivity of the categories are clear. </p><p></p><p>I say you continue the current track, and award for content, even if it is a genre-spanning product. As a consumer/player/DM, I want to know what these products really deserved to win for - I'm not interested in "spreading the love;" instead, I want to know what is genuinely the best product out there, even if it is a multi-purpose product. </p><p> </p><p>That sounds amusing, at the very least. I say do it - though I'll bet somebody 10 bucks that something from Order of the Stick wins it if this category is created. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p> I like them. They seem perfectly reasonable to me, and they certainly make sense as Kevin explains them from the podium. I wouldn't change a thing. </p><p></p><p>The existing criteria seem to be working fairly well. I see that there's some dissatisfaction with Shackled City, for example, counting as a campaign setting. However, to me, this is exactly the kind of genre-spanner that, if it is as high-quality as it seems the voters thought it was, deserves as much recognition as the community chooses to heap upon it. After having read the thing, I'd have to agree with this year's Ennies judges, and count it as a Campaign Setting, as well as an adventure. Of course, that's just an example, and a long way of saying I think the present definitions are fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The_Universe, post: 3025715, member: 8944"] Self nomination is OK by me - the vote process should sufficiently weed out judges who don't have the reputation/skill/whatever to serve. In short, I don't see any particular benefit to adding an additional hurdle to the judge selection process - I certainly can't/won't criticize the judging panel that has arisen from the current process. I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of this proposal - to me, the two categories are measuring different things, using entirely different metrics. In the Best D20 Category, we're looking at how a game uses the strictures of the D20 system, whereas in the larger "best game" category, we're measuring an overall experience. To deny D20 games the chance to compete in the "Best Game" category at least implies that no D20 game can be the best - that's just silly, and a slap in the face to D20 publishers. I agree that the "Best D20" category should be kept as a nod to both a) the structure of the market, and b) the origins of the awards. However, if D20 games are to be barred from competition in what is now called the "Best Game" category, it should at least be clarified - make the categories "Best D20" and "Best Non-D20" so that the exclusivity of the categories are clear. I say you continue the current track, and award for content, even if it is a genre-spanning product. As a consumer/player/DM, I want to know what these products really deserved to win for - I'm not interested in "spreading the love;" instead, I want to know what is genuinely the best product out there, even if it is a multi-purpose product. That sounds amusing, at the very least. I say do it - though I'll bet somebody 10 bucks that something from Order of the Stick wins it if this category is created. ;) I like them. They seem perfectly reasonable to me, and they certainly make sense as Kevin explains them from the podium. I wouldn't change a thing. The existing criteria seem to be working fairly well. I see that there's some dissatisfaction with Shackled City, for example, counting as a campaign setting. However, to me, this is exactly the kind of genre-spanner that, if it is as high-quality as it seems the voters thought it was, deserves as much recognition as the community chooses to heap upon it. After having read the thing, I'd have to agree with this year's Ennies judges, and count it as a Campaign Setting, as well as an adventure. Of course, that's just an example, and a long way of saying I think the present definitions are fine. [/QUOTE]
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