Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Opening Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7747335" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>These are pretty much established trends in 5e books, I wonder why people are still surprised about them:</p><p></p><p>- Books are <strong>light</strong>. There is a lot less material compared to typical 3e books. For <strong>core </strong>books this is actually a good thing that mostly has to do with the game being simpler and actually needing <em>less</em> written stuff; so the 5e PHB has the same <em>potential </em>as the 3e PHB, even more classes and races actually, and lots of spells were merged, but overall the material needs less words (just check the difference in text size and space occupied by artwork). OTOH, for supplements it may not be that positive, but WotC doesn't have nearly as many designers it used to have in 3e, and they made it clear they won't release stuff unless they are sure about it (personally I think it's a bit bogus, I think they are now just caught into the habit of simply cutting down any UA material down to 2/3 just because, even if it would be fairly balanced already). Anyway, that's just to say that it is quite annoying to see people still expecting twice the stuff it could fit in a 5e book with the current layout, and then be disappointed.</p><p></p><p>- Stuff gets <strong>reprinted</strong>. Whether they do it because they need some filler, or because they genuinely want to help those who don't buy adventures or settings book, it's going to happen again. </p><p></p><p>- Books are <strong>hodgepodged</strong>. A book might have a theme, and a slant towards a certain type of material. But ultimately they release only 1 non-adventure book per year (maybe 2 in 2018), so it's inevitable that they will always have players' stuff that DMs don't need, and DM's stuff that players don't need. They probably won't double the release schedule, and they certainly won't leave 2 years between releasing a book that a DM or a player would buy. They also don't really plan books, but rather collect scattered ideas all the time through UA, and <em>then</em> figure out a possible theme.</p><p></p><p>- The AL rule of "PHB+1" is going to stay, <em>unless</em> there is a change in management or there is a crisis with the popularity of AL. Just deal with the rule if you want to play AL, and remember that just as it could have been "PHB+2" it could have also been "PHB only". Anyway, due to the reprinting practice, I wouldn't be surprised if one day they release a "Best of 5e" book to effectively break the PHB+1 rule without formally dropping it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7747335, member: 1465"] These are pretty much established trends in 5e books, I wonder why people are still surprised about them: - Books are [B]light[/B]. There is a lot less material compared to typical 3e books. For [B]core [/B]books this is actually a good thing that mostly has to do with the game being simpler and actually needing [I]less[/I] written stuff; so the 5e PHB has the same [I]potential [/I]as the 3e PHB, even more classes and races actually, and lots of spells were merged, but overall the material needs less words (just check the difference in text size and space occupied by artwork). OTOH, for supplements it may not be that positive, but WotC doesn't have nearly as many designers it used to have in 3e, and they made it clear they won't release stuff unless they are sure about it (personally I think it's a bit bogus, I think they are now just caught into the habit of simply cutting down any UA material down to 2/3 just because, even if it would be fairly balanced already). Anyway, that's just to say that it is quite annoying to see people still expecting twice the stuff it could fit in a 5e book with the current layout, and then be disappointed. - Stuff gets [B]reprinted[/B]. Whether they do it because they need some filler, or because they genuinely want to help those who don't buy adventures or settings book, it's going to happen again. - Books are [B]hodgepodged[/B]. A book might have a theme, and a slant towards a certain type of material. But ultimately they release only 1 non-adventure book per year (maybe 2 in 2018), so it's inevitable that they will always have players' stuff that DMs don't need, and DM's stuff that players don't need. They probably won't double the release schedule, and they certainly won't leave 2 years between releasing a book that a DM or a player would buy. They also don't really plan books, but rather collect scattered ideas all the time through UA, and [I]then[/I] figure out a possible theme. - The AL rule of "PHB+1" is going to stay, [I]unless[/I] there is a change in management or there is a crisis with the popularity of AL. Just deal with the rule if you want to play AL, and remember that just as it could have been "PHB+2" it could have also been "PHB only". Anyway, due to the reprinting practice, I wouldn't be surprised if one day they release a "Best of 5e" book to effectively break the PHB+1 rule without formally dropping it. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Opening Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes
Top