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<blockquote data-quote="Talislan" data-source="post: 4018698" data-attributes="member: 56858"><p>I'm looking forward to a NEW game. Its a NEW version of D&D called D&D 4e. It's a NEW way of playing D&D with NEW rules.</p><p></p><p>This is my view. You might call it gamist.</p><p></p><p>I could tell you I'm looking forward to seeing how they make combat between characters more(or less) realistic and more interesting to play out. Then you might call my view simulationist.</p><p></p><p>If I then say that in this NEW game they have left the world open for me to put my own slant onto the background with only the bare minimum of fluff dictating how the world works. I am therefore looking forward to the freedom of <em>telling </em> my own <em>story</em> about the <em>events</em> leading up to the battles that take place within it.</p><p>Now I look narrativist (or whatever the proper term is).</p><p></p><p>If I put all three together I can't be pidgeon-holed so what would that make me?</p><p>Well I'm for gamist, because without playing the NEW game, the other two can't happen.(IMHO)</p><p></p><p>T.</p><p></p><p>P.S. The Bilbo/Frodo one ring that 'anyone' could wear argument. Point of fact: Every character that wore the ring in LotR was corrupted by it. (The big G-man even makes a point of telling Frodo not to tempt him with its power!). As to mastering its power, NO ONE ever masters its true power (one ring to rule them all). They get made invisible by it and in return it sends them mad. (in short).</p><p>It is a corrupt influence on the weak 'heroes' of the story. The 'Paragon' of Wizardry is afraid to touch it even as he transcends into his 'Epic' destiny (becoming the White Wizard).</p><p></p><p>My point: Please find a better argument for this 'sacred cow' being changed in the NEW game to one that uses Tolkien as a reference. Using Tolkien as a reference only confirms what WoTC is doing is following that strand of the fantasy genres norm's and that they are therefore right. It is a rubbish argument.</p><p></p><p>And the argument that the 'ring rule' is not D&D gaming? Wrong. It's not 1e, 2e or 3e or 3.xe D&D. That much is true. But not D&D? Well unless anything changes I can tell you it most definately IS the new game I am so looking forward too that IS called <strong>D&D 4e</strong> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Talislan, post: 4018698, member: 56858"] I'm looking forward to a NEW game. Its a NEW version of D&D called D&D 4e. It's a NEW way of playing D&D with NEW rules. This is my view. You might call it gamist. I could tell you I'm looking forward to seeing how they make combat between characters more(or less) realistic and more interesting to play out. Then you might call my view simulationist. If I then say that in this NEW game they have left the world open for me to put my own slant onto the background with only the bare minimum of fluff dictating how the world works. I am therefore looking forward to the freedom of [I]telling [/I] my own [I]story[/I] about the [I]events[/I] leading up to the battles that take place within it. Now I look narrativist (or whatever the proper term is). If I put all three together I can't be pidgeon-holed so what would that make me? Well I'm for gamist, because without playing the NEW game, the other two can't happen.(IMHO) T. P.S. The Bilbo/Frodo one ring that 'anyone' could wear argument. Point of fact: Every character that wore the ring in LotR was corrupted by it. (The big G-man even makes a point of telling Frodo not to tempt him with its power!). As to mastering its power, NO ONE ever masters its true power (one ring to rule them all). They get made invisible by it and in return it sends them mad. (in short). It is a corrupt influence on the weak 'heroes' of the story. The 'Paragon' of Wizardry is afraid to touch it even as he transcends into his 'Epic' destiny (becoming the White Wizard). My point: Please find a better argument for this 'sacred cow' being changed in the NEW game to one that uses Tolkien as a reference. Using Tolkien as a reference only confirms what WoTC is doing is following that strand of the fantasy genres norm's and that they are therefore right. It is a rubbish argument. And the argument that the 'ring rule' is not D&D gaming? Wrong. It's not 1e, 2e or 3e or 3.xe D&D. That much is true. But not D&D? Well unless anything changes I can tell you it most definately IS the new game I am so looking forward too that IS called [B]D&D 4e[/B] :cool: [/QUOTE]
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