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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4017893" data-attributes="member: 32536">Err, I only skimmed the thread, but I guess I am a bit confused...So, imagine that a group of PCs start out in a very PoL-style world. Through the heroic levels, they barely manage to protect the few points of light they call home, and slowly help stabilize these areas into a much bigger point of light. Through the paragon levels, the PCs start fighting to unite and protect whole kingdoms, fighting off corruption and whole nations of evil. Through the epic levels, the PCs dive into the heart of darkness, fighting against the very core of the darkness that grips their world, until they banish it from every corner of the planet and help create a new golden age of peace and prosperity that will last a thousand years, at which point the heros retire and enjoy the rewards of triumph after a long, hard battle.What is supposed to be wrong with that? It sounds like a great campaign to me. In fact, I don't think I would want any campaign that runs from level 1 to level 30 to begin or end any differently. I don't see why it is necessary to prevent ultimate triumph for the PCs, or why the PoL concept breaks down at all at higher levels.</blockquote>