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<blockquote data-quote="Baron Opal" data-source="post: 4018140" data-attributes="member: 10433">???I see, you see the conflict in 3.Xe as fundamentally against the five main alignments. If you had a PoL setting, or any other style of setting, there would be continual strife regardless of the power level of the PCs. If the PCs defeated another &quot;side&quot; (say, Chaos defeats Law) there would be at least three other forces to directly oppose the side throwing off the balance. You do not see this in 4e.Assuming that I summarized your point, I disagree. Rather than deliniateing sides by alignment the 4e cosmology makes distinctions more by realm. So you have the Court of Stars in the Faewild, Hall of Glooms in Shadowfell, the Tyrant of the City of Brass, &amp;c. that can continue to pose problems and generate strife in the campaign.Levels 21-30 are still &quot;epic&quot;. I don't really have an appreciation of how the power levels run, but from what I read I don't expect that they will be that much different than in 3e, just flow better. I expect that by the time you reach the high teens, low twenties you will have plenty of opportunities for what you describe.You might consider Sepulchrave's storyhour an example of high level PCs who have expanded their PoL setting to a nation that is a Point and beating back the darkness from that level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baron Opal, post: 4018140, member: 10433"] ??? I see, you see the conflict in 3.Xe as fundamentally against the five main alignments. If you had a PoL setting, or any other style of setting, there would be continual strife regardless of the power level of the PCs. If the PCs defeated another "side" (say, Chaos defeats Law) there would be at least three other forces to directly oppose the side throwing off the balance. You do not see this in 4e. Assuming that I summarized your point, I disagree. Rather than deliniateing sides by alignment the 4e cosmology makes distinctions more by realm. So you have the Court of Stars in the Faewild, Hall of Glooms in Shadowfell, the Tyrant of the City of Brass, &c. that can continue to pose problems and generate strife in the campaign. Levels 21-30 are still "epic". I don't really have an appreciation of how the power levels run, but from what I read I don't expect that they will be that much different than in 3e, just flow better. I expect that by the time you reach the high teens, low twenties you will have plenty of opportunities for what you describe. You might consider Sepulchrave's storyhour an example of high level PCs who have expanded their PoL setting to a nation that is a Point and beating back the darkness from that level. [/QUOTE]

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