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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4018700" data-attributes="member: 22779">Umm, you realize that Athens, Sparta and the Roman empire all work beautifully as a PoL setting?&nbsp; Your wilderness is the border of the Roman empire.&nbsp; Who wants to be an adventurer in Rome at 1st level?&nbsp; That would be boring.&nbsp; I'd rather be out there with the legions bringing civilization to the barbarians.&nbsp; Now, Hanseatic League?&nbsp; Ok, you're out of PoL for the most part.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sort of.&nbsp; Then again, establishing those trade routes could easily be a PoL style campaign.&nbsp; Depends on exactly when you want.&nbsp; I would point out though that the League eventually fell and trade died.&nbsp;&nbsp; SOunds a lot like the rise and fall of PoL to me.Again, nothing in PoL prevents that.&nbsp; Your Points of Light might be a bit bigger, but, that's not really a difference.&nbsp; Nothing prevents history, customs or background in a setting where you have the rise and fall of empires over thousands of years.&nbsp; PoL does not mean generic village beset by orcs.&nbsp; That's your assumption and is not supported by the text.What it means is that you don't have modern nation states, which a lot of published settings had.&nbsp; Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms particularly are made up of nations.&nbsp; You won't have that so much in a PoL setting.&nbsp; Instead you get city states as the largest &quot;national identity&quot;.&nbsp; In the same way that you are Spartan or Athenian and NOT Greek.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4018700, member: 22779"] Umm, you realize that Athens, Sparta and the Roman empire all work beautifully as a PoL setting? Your wilderness is the border of the Roman empire. Who wants to be an adventurer in Rome at 1st level? That would be boring. I'd rather be out there with the legions bringing civilization to the barbarians. Now, Hanseatic League? Ok, you're out of PoL for the most part. Sort of. Then again, establishing those trade routes could easily be a PoL style campaign. Depends on exactly when you want. I would point out though that the League eventually fell and trade died. SOunds a lot like the rise and fall of PoL to me. Again, nothing in PoL prevents that. Your Points of Light might be a bit bigger, but, that's not really a difference. Nothing prevents history, customs or background in a setting where you have the rise and fall of empires over thousands of years. PoL does not mean generic village beset by orcs. That's your assumption and is not supported by the text. What it means is that you don't have modern nation states, which a lot of published settings had. Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms particularly are made up of nations. You won't have that so much in a PoL setting. Instead you get city states as the largest "national identity". In the same way that you are Spartan or Athenian and NOT Greek. [/QUOTE]

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