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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tzarevitch" data-source="post: 134419" data-attributes="member: 1792">Neither. The party is reasonably potent and the dragons aren't. I'll never understand why some people think dragons are these all-powerful killing machines.  Ancient dragons and up can be a handful but smaller dragons are not that dangerous as long as you know what you are facing and you aren't surprised. Younger dragons have little if any SR, poor spell selections, and don't do all that much damage (relatively speaking). To top it all off, they need a lot of room to fight effectively and their breath weapons are easily countered once you know what you are facing and take protective measures. Even older dragons are not that dangerous to a party of appropriate level. They are bigger and they hit harder, but so are the PCs and the dragon's spells are not much better. Some have a better SR which helps a bit, but on the whole, relatively speaking they are not even the most damgerous things of their CR you can run into. (And as I recall the designers fudged their CRs down to keep them competative.) Dragons really need minions and lots of them to keep people from getting too close to them and to draw attacks. TzarevitchP.S. If you want to know real Dragonfear, try the old 2e Planescape Rust Dragons. I have never seen PCs run in terror like that in my entire life then when they ticked off a Great Wyrm rust dragon on Acheron. (Note: They didn't run because they were afraid for their lives. They ran because they were afraid for their stuff.)</blockquote>

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