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<blockquote data-quote="BlivetWidget" data-source="post: 8074433" data-attributes="member: 6912801"><p>I consider that undead cease to be corpses when they become undead. I use the word "corpse" as it is used in common English, to specifically refer to an inanimate, dead body. But that is my own convention, not one codified in the rules. I would say a zombie <em>was </em>a corpse.</p><p></p><p>The difference between a marionette and an animated object is, to me and to the rules, quite clear. The marionette must be actively puppeteered. The animated object has a stat block: it has its own strength, intelligence, charisma, etc. It can accept a vague order like "guard the corridor" or "attack that creature" and work out the details for itself.</p><p></p><p>To me, the wording of Clone is also clear: the vessel does not contain a medium creature, it rather specifically contains an "inert duplicate" of said medium creature, and one without a soul at that. If your understanding of "inert" in this context differs from mine, we may simply need to agree to disagree.</p><p></p><p>Raise Dead is just one of many spells with poor wording. I'll let you watch the <a href="https://www.sageadvice.eu/2019/03/10/if-a-corpse-is-an-object-how-can-a-cleric-touch-a-creature-that-has-been-dead-to-cast-true-resurection/" target="_blank">mental gymnastics at play</a> being used to retroactively justify the word choice. But again, to me, the intent is clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BlivetWidget, post: 8074433, member: 6912801"] I consider that undead cease to be corpses when they become undead. I use the word "corpse" as it is used in common English, to specifically refer to an inanimate, dead body. But that is my own convention, not one codified in the rules. I would say a zombie [I]was [/I]a corpse. The difference between a marionette and an animated object is, to me and to the rules, quite clear. The marionette must be actively puppeteered. The animated object has a stat block: it has its own strength, intelligence, charisma, etc. It can accept a vague order like "guard the corridor" or "attack that creature" and work out the details for itself. To me, the wording of Clone is also clear: the vessel does not contain a medium creature, it rather specifically contains an "inert duplicate" of said medium creature, and one without a soul at that. If your understanding of "inert" in this context differs from mine, we may simply need to agree to disagree. Raise Dead is just one of many spells with poor wording. I'll let you watch the [URL='https://www.sageadvice.eu/2019/03/10/if-a-corpse-is-an-object-how-can-a-cleric-touch-a-creature-that-has-been-dead-to-cast-true-resurection/']mental gymnastics at play[/URL] being used to retroactively justify the word choice. But again, to me, the intent is clear. [/QUOTE]
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