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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5063126" data-attributes="member: 35909">That's been my experience, too.&nbsp; For all the grief about underpowered warriors, it's typically the rogues, bards, and jack of all trade classes that are weakest at higher levels.&nbsp; Ironically, my last campaign, being high powered gestalt with a big focus towards eventually slaying gods (and thus encountering lots of outsiders and other things with yucky SR), it was almost comical how worthless the two PCs who went dual caster were.&nbsp; They actually complained on several occasions that the people with full BAB or ToB maneuvers were killing everything, while all their spells and SLAs kept failing against SR or the insane saves high powered gestalt tends to lead to...I mean, the campaign died out at about level 10 before they even started on the plane hopping half of the campaign, those impressions of being impotent were just from normal encounter fare (there was a lengthy tour of the underdark, which has a disgusting amount of things with insane SR, though).&nbsp; If the campaign did continue, they probably would have really been upset.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5063126, member: 35909"] That's been my experience, too. For all the grief about underpowered warriors, it's typically the rogues, bards, and jack of all trade classes that are weakest at higher levels. Ironically, my last campaign, being high powered gestalt with a big focus towards eventually slaying gods (and thus encountering lots of outsiders and other things with yucky SR), it was almost comical how worthless the two PCs who went dual caster were. They actually complained on several occasions that the people with full BAB or ToB maneuvers were killing everything, while all their spells and SLAs kept failing against SR or the insane saves high powered gestalt tends to lead to... I mean, the campaign died out at about level 10 before they even started on the plane hopping half of the campaign, those impressions of being impotent were just from normal encounter fare (there was a lengthy tour of the underdark, which has a disgusting amount of things with insane SR, though). If the campaign did continue, they probably would have really been upset. :) [/QUOTE]

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