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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5065414" data-attributes="member: 50895">Its different for every group I am sure...I am definitely in the Pathfinder is good camp, however, all the 3e hate, while not necessarily misplaced does not exist in our group.We're still playing a 3.5 campaign that has gone past 3 years now. All the players are multi-class, all the players are either epic or will soon be epic with class A + Class B + Class C, where two of the classes sit at 20th level, if not higher. We have a few house rules, and have largely banned many spells from the Spell Compendium, but haven't banned that book altogether. Almost none of the characters chose Prestige classes, most are just core classes and multiclass in two or three core classes. Its not that we don't want PrC, so far no one has gone all out into the PrC - oh, we have one full level Black Guard, but he was a single class Paladin, until he "fell."We all share the DM chair, except for two (one, we banned from DMing as he plays his own broken version of the game, not playing core at all, the other doesn't want to), but five people switch around as DM, usually running 4 or 5 sessions before switching. We've encountered no real problems, even with one part-time DM as DMing for the first time in his life.Most of us had fun with every version of D&D since 1e. As a group we don't care for what we've seen in 4e (we even have the books, so its not based on an uneducated opinion) - but that's just our group. Its not WotC hate, just that 4e is not our game.I am slowly but surely interjecting pieces of Pathfinder into our game, mostly with skills and some imported class features from PF to 3e, as well as use of CMB/CMD.Because I am developing a commercial setting for Pathfinder (Kaidan: a Japanese Ghost Story setting), I have developed a Samurai class for my setting that I've nerfed in the feats area, so it fits better into our 3e group, but two players are already multiclassing with my Samurai and they love it.So we're basically enjoying PF, like we enjoyed every previous edition. Problems exist, but by and large we work around it. Lucky for our group, unlike the OP's we share in DMming and it works great for us, minimizes DM burn-out and everyone is happy.I feel sorry for all those who thought to quit RPGing for one reason or another, our group has been having fun for over 20 years.GP</blockquote>

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