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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 5069165" data-attributes="member: 29112">4e dragons, from what I remember, are basically big dumb flying lizards. They scratch, they bite, also maybe gore? Then there is the breath weapon (of course!) and the fact that they are scary. OK. What else? Perhaps an aura of auto-damage, or a burst thingy, I dunno. All damage, alla time.But I might not be remembering right - it's been a while.I quite like the Pathfinder dragons, personally. Nice mix of options - and yes, it's partly optional stuff! - and simple bread 'n butter stats, all laid out neatly and sensibly.One thing I would prefer though, be it in 3e or Pathfinder, is a bunch more *tailored* supernatural abilities as options, rather than spell-like abilities and spellcasting per se. And that goes for a huge number of other monsters too. Oh sure, some of those abilities could be *similar* to stock spells, and that'd be fine.It's a pet peeve, and (another) one 4e really didn't fix, as far as I'm concerned - for my tastes in gaming, and all that.</blockquote>